Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell. | Page 347 | The Boneyard

Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

Fairfield_1st

Sitting on this Barstool talking like a damn fool
Joined
Nov 16, 2012
Messages
2,571
Reaction Score
8,076
As if it isn't bad enough now, I have this vision that the next version of a governing body will be like the foxes guarding the hen house. The whole college athletics landscape is becoming very disheartening.
 

CL82

NCAA Men’s Basketball National Champions - Again!
Joined
Aug 24, 2011
Messages
58,806
Reaction Score
218,366
The problem is that even if the P5 schools were to break away and form an autonomous organization, and invite UConn, we would have virtually no say in the governance. Not a great position to be in. The only thing worse, though, would be being left behind.
 
Joined
Mar 16, 2013
Messages
2,173
Reaction Score
6,312
As if it isn't bad enough now, I have this vision that the next version of a governing body will be like the foxes guarding the hen house. The whole college athletics landscape is becoming very disheartening.
Don’t lose any sleep. They will destroy themselves and the games eventually
 

Fairfield_1st

Sitting on this Barstool talking like a damn fool
Joined
Nov 16, 2012
Messages
2,571
Reaction Score
8,076
The problem is that even if the P5 schools were to break away and form an autonomous organization, and invite UConn, we would have virtually no say in the governance. Not a great position to be in. The only thing worse, though, would be being left behind.
Sounds like being in the Big XII with Texas and Oklahoma.
 
Joined
Aug 13, 2013
Messages
8,887
Reaction Score
8,377
The beating of the drums are echoing in the jungle....Said Bwana Sahib sagaciously..."I think something may be afoot"

Ohio State AD - "We have to do something different. That’s for Doggone for sure." “And what I’m talking about is something different to us: making our own recruiting rules, our own playing rules, our own application, the full nine yards."

Penn State AD - “I think reasonable minds can agree on the principle that college football is different – FBS football is different, Power 5 football is a little different – and that we need flexibility and opportunity, fundamentally, to control what we are doing,”

Miami AD Dan Radakovich - "A break-off of some kind is “inevitable” and only a matter of time."

Paul Finebaum- "
“I think this is the moment that a lot of people are looking around saying, why do we need the NCAA? I know the basketball tournament is important. I know all these other sports are important, but the people that sit at that table, the five Power 5 commissioners plus Jack Swarbrick, plus a few other people, run college football,” Finebaum said on the show. “The NCAA does not run college football, they lost that a long time ago, and I think they’re seeing the ineptitude of the NCAA especially of the leadership that currently exists. And I think we’re moving slowly, when I mean slowly, maybe a couple of years you can’t do this overnight, but I think ultimately you are going to see a break.”
 
Joined
Aug 13, 2013
Messages
8,887
Reaction Score
8,377
The dominoes are being lined up...

First step will be related to moving governance out of NCAA and then negotiating post season deals for a new playoff. There will be increasing tier 1 minimum requirements that could see some teams opt out. I think the G5 will be invited initially to come along but it will be cost prohibitive for many of them.

Then the media and and the new structure that replaces the NCAA move to create a tier 1 league of top 60 or so teams....conferences as we now know them, would be reshuffled. How contractual ties muddy this scenario is anyone's guess.

The history, rivalries, and pageantry of college football, as we have come to love it, will be pitted against the lure of money and demands of the media.
 
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
8,327
Reaction Score
22,480
The dominoes are being lined up...

First step will be related to moving governance out of NCAA and then negotiating post season deals for a new playoff. There will be increasing tier 1 minimum requirements that could see some teams opt out. I think the G5 will be invited initially to come along but it will be cost prohibitive for many of them.

Then the media and and the new structure that replaces the NCAA move to create a tier 1 league of top 60 or so teams....conferences as we now know them, would be reshuffled. How contractual ties muddy this scenario is anyone's guess.

The history, rivalries, and pageantry of college football, as we have come to love it, will be pitted against the lure of money and demands of the media.

Why 60? Why not 30-40?
 
Joined
Aug 24, 2011
Messages
4,290
Reaction Score
11,099
The dominoes are being lined up...

First step will be related to moving governance out of NCAA and then negotiating post season deals for a new playoff. There will be increasing tier 1 minimum requirements that could see some teams opt out. I think the G5 will be invited initially to come along but it will be cost prohibitive for many of them.

Then the media and and the new structure that replaces the NCAA move to create a tier 1 league of top 60 or so teams....conferences as we now know them, would be reshuffled. How contractual ties muddy this scenario is anyone's guess.

The history, rivalries, and pageantry of college football, as we have come to love it, will be pitted against the lure of money and demands of the media.

Yup. …..and basketball will follow.
 
Joined
Sep 27, 2011
Messages
1,406
Reaction Score
637
The dominoes are being lined up...

First step will be related to moving governance out of NCAA and then negotiating post season deals for a new playoff. There will be increasing tier 1 minimum requirements that could see some teams opt out. I think the G5 will be invited initially to come along but it will be cost prohibitive for many of them.

Then the media and and the new structure that replaces the NCAA move to create a tier 1 league of top 60 or so teams....conferences as we now know them, would be reshuffled. How contractual ties muddy this scenario is anyone's guess.

The history, rivalries, and pageantry of college football, as we have come to love it, will be pitted against the lure of money and demands of the media.

What do you mean “will be”?

It’s steady been that way. The only thing that’s new about it is that some peoples previously unassailable positions at the top of the heap may not be as strong as they thought.
 
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
27,047
Reaction Score
35,177
The dominoes are being lined up...

First step will be related to moving governance out of NCAA and then negotiating post season deals for a new playoff. There will be increasing tier 1 minimum requirements that could see some teams opt out. I think the G5 will be invited initially to come along but it will be cost prohibitive for many of them.

Then the media and and the new structure that replaces the NCAA move to create a tier 1 league of top 60 or so teams....conferences as we now know them, would be reshuffled. How contractual ties muddy this scenario is anyone's guess.

The history, rivalries, and pageantry of college football, as we have come to love it, will be pitted against the lure of money and demands of the media.

Profound. Will also shall run downhill and the sun shall set in the west.
 

CL82

NCAA Men’s Basketball National Champions - Again!
Joined
Aug 24, 2011
Messages
58,806
Reaction Score
218,366
Joined
Aug 24, 2011
Messages
4,290
Reaction Score
11,099
I feel like this adds a little more smoke to the USC to the Big 10 rumor.

Yeah. The differentials in media money are just too big. I think everyone who's not of the ilk of Alabama, USC, Michigan, theOSU, etc. need to think about what their future is if 40 or so programs break away.
 
Joined
Sep 18, 2011
Messages
5,232
Reaction Score
20,863
This is what gives the entire B1G collaboration with the P12 some logic.
Ultimately, we are moving to streaming, so think about this. What if the BTN bought the PAC12 Network and broadcast both Big 10 and Pac 12 games? Lot's of synergies including scheduling games between the conferences. And, for football, you could have 12 PM, 3:30 PM, 7 PM and 10:30 PM time slots each week. Right now, it's more profitable to sell games to the linear networks like ESPN/FOX/CBS,..., and put secondary games on the conference networks, but will that be the case in 10 years?

I really don't think there will be a breakaway from a small number of schools as you don't enhance value by decreasing reach. And, the top schools needs teams they can beat and have good records. Look at the SEC. Last season, all of the SEC schools had records of 6-7 or better except Vanderbilt! That is why they only play 8 conference games. If the top 40 schools broke away and only played each other, you would have almost half of the schools with losing records and that wouldn't make their fans happy at all. Winning builds fan bases and losing erodes them.
 

Exit 4

This space for rent
Joined
Feb 3, 2012
Messages
10,573
Reaction Score
39,437
Ultimately, we are moving to streaming, so think about this. What if the BTN bought the PAC12 Network and broadcast both Big 10 and Pac 12 games? Lot's of synergies including scheduling games between the conferences. And, for football, you could have 12 PM, 3:30 PM, 7 PM and 10:30 PM time slots each week. Right now, it's more profitable to sell games to the linear networks like ESPN/FOX/CBS,..., and put secondary games on the conference networks, but will that be the case in 10 years?
Ha- I DM'd a few dudes here about similar idea a few weeks ago.

Its a complicated situation, but basically yes why not have Fox and the BTN acquire/partner with both the P12 and the Big East to create coast to coast content under one bundle. Particularly in the future world of streaming, the content of the three conferences together as one package might help get each other into new markets.

Another reason I think this could make some sense is the simple fact that ESPN is already loaded up by owning 100% of the SEC content, 100% of the ACC and AAC content and a slew of G5 content. Bundling the other three and maybe adding the B12 could give Fox and its conference partners a critical mass and national football.

And I think you keep the branding of each channel, all I am saying is that all of this content would be sold together.
 
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
8,327
Reaction Score
22,480
Ha- I DM'd a few dudes here about similar idea a few weeks ago.

Its a complicated situation, but basically yes why not have Fox and the BTN acquire/partner with both the P12 and the Big East to create coast to coast content under one bundle. Particularly in the future world of streaming, the content of the three conferences together as one package might help get each other into new markets.

Another reason I think this could make some sense is the simple fact that ESPN is already loaded up by owning 100% of the SEC content, 100% of the ACC and AAC content and a slew of G5 content. Bundling the other three and maybe adding the B12 could give Fox and its conference partners a critical mass and national football.

And I think you keep the branding of each channel, all I am saying is that all of this content would be sold together.

Would this move help or hurt us From a football perspective?
 

Online statistics

Members online
283
Guests online
2,565
Total visitors
2,848

Forum statistics

Threads
158,658
Messages
4,161,526
Members
10,040
Latest member
RedRabbit84


.
Top Bottom