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but the ACC permanently sullied its decent academic reputation by throwing in with this joke of a school.
But so what?
but the ACC permanently sullied its decent academic reputation by throwing in with this joke of a school.
But so what?
A conference needs some identity. The ACC had a decent academic reputation. They gave it up for short term gain. The SEC is known for football and always had been. The ACC will not compete with the SEC for football supremacy, so they should have maintained academic quality to counter the fixed identity of the SEC in the south. Say what you want about the B1G, but other than NW (which, as a private, is as good as it gets) they have the top public university in their respective states (and 2 in both Indiana and Michigan). You say so what? I guess they did too in Dec. 2012. I think they effed up big time and will haunt them.
Nah that's the question you ask. The question I ask is did the ACC reveal itself as being unprincipled and desperate by taking a glorified community college into it's conference?UConn would have been a better football choice than Louisville?
Louisville might gain a little weight...but how much weight would UConn have to lose to finish AP Top 25 five or six times, win a couple of BCS Bowls (equivalent)?
That's the question when you ask...why Louisville?
Will Duke, UNC, Virginia, Wake, Miami, VT all get USNWR downgrades on academic ratings for playing Louisville?
What academic principles?
So you speak for the country or are you just echoing the group-speak narrative of your masters in Connecticut.LOL...unprincipled and desperate?
That is surely a UConn take....not the take of the rest of the country. And it is the echo of hurt and disappointment.
Shalala gave everyone a picture of Miami-to-come when she spoke of her displeasure with football. FSU wasn't interested in looking at it. Now everyone is saying the Hurricanes aren't aging well.The ACC and FSU wanted Miami...Miami had to have BC and Cuse as their price....
And Miami was hot at the time...12 win seasons in 2001 and 2002...two straight BCS championship games...five national football championships in 20 years.
Yes..Miami was a hottie in 2002.....the ACC would have taken FIU or Georgia Southern if Shalala had insisted.
Sometimes, after you pay many cattle for a comely young bride, she gets fat and waddles.
That is some lofty view of stabilization value. I agree that it will be a mistake if the ACC doesn't add UConn at some point. But I'm just not feeling it with Rutgers. The Detroit Bowl Champions just don't knock my socks off. And basketball? Geez. But Ok. To each his own. The Big Ten brought them in for New Jersey cable subscribers. The ACC will have to get cable subscribers from another state.Their mistake was to skip the large state U's in the Northeast. If the ACC had taken UCONN and Rutgers it would be the most stable league in the country behind the SEC. The Big Ten would be looking to get into the South and East and have very limited options that don't fit their profile. (BC, Cuse). Meanwhile, if the SEC wanted to steal anyone from the ACC, they'd likely get NC ST and or VTech, which wouldn't destroy the ACC at all.
I can't argue that UL wasn't a timely add, they needed some good football at the time. However, their venture into New York/New England was a comical error. If any decision will haunt the ACC, skipping Rutgers and UCONN will be it.
There are only two college football teams that move the needle in the Northeast really. Penn State and Notre Dame. One is in the Big Ten. The other is playing 5 ACC games per year. .
re: Rutgers: I think everyone needs to look at how the combo of Big Ten + Rutgers is much sweeter than either alone in the NYC market. True, Rutgers brought the cable market, but there's a lot of Big Ten fans (other than PSU or Rutgers) that are now more engaged because Rutgers is now part of the Big Ten.
The thing is, if UConn is still relegated to this abortion of a conference in 5-10 years, we won't even have the chance to be the better long-term choice.Time will tell if Louisville was a better choice than UConn.
Seaa Blue said:That's why we need a guaranteed path to the playoffs (P4?) so conferences can go to a mandatory 10 game conference schedule and not worry so much about who they're playing non-conference.
At 1 million+ for 1-off games, conferences will start thinking hard about changing the formula.
Why WOULD New York care about college football? There's been nothing to care about. Nobody cares about losing. What the Big Ten signed on for was to build a market where none exists. That takes time and more than Rutgers. The real question is, stimpy, will you still love us when we're in the B1G?I'll take your word for it. Perhaps Rutgers will help the Big Ten in NYC in ways it didn't the Big East or couldn't have for the ACC. ESPN recently has done a rating of Power Conference football coaching jobs. They have an interesting blurb about Rutgers. It basically insinuates that New York doesn't even notice that the Heisman happens in NYC. It doesn't care about college football according to ESPN.