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This guy stimp is on a divisive mission here fishy but he's very smooth(professional?).Oh, gosh.
This is like the time I had to tell my daughter there was no Easter Bunny...
This guy stimp is on a divisive mission here fishy but he's very smooth(professional?).Oh, gosh.
This is like the time I had to tell my daughter there was no Easter Bunny...
This guy stimp is on a divisive mission here fishy but he's very smooth(professional?).
This guy stimp is on a divisive mission here fishy but he's very smooth(professional?).
Again, you miss the point because all you see and hear is your own bitterness tempered by your sense of entitlement. That point is that if football independence is all ND is about, we could be fully independent now.You could not have kept your sports in the Catholic 7 because the Catholics don't have a full array of Olympic sports. And really, the A10? You call us bitter. You're dense in the head.
That's exactly what ND is all about. ND only cares for itself and could careless about the conference. This is why ACC will end up just like the old BE once ESPiN is done protecting it. ACC is looking more and more like the old BE everyday. When ACC blows up, ND will simply find a new home somewhere else.
This is exactly why UCONN needs to find a stable home in another conference. Hopefully, it is the B1G since we are now a perfect fit for it. We certainly don't want to repeat what happened with the old BE again.
Again, you miss the point because all you see and hear is your own bitterness tempered by your sense of entitlement. That point is that if football independence is all ND is about, we could be fully independent now.
We are where we are as we are because that is easily the best place for us to be, for the entire athletics department and the university.
Why in the world would anyone"care" about a conference, anyway?
Conference membership certainly is not enshrined in our Constitution or came down to us from Mt. Sinai?
Hey it is what it is. I never delude myself over RU's mediocrity but coming from an outlander(IMO) who my guess is would never talk this way to someones face is frustrating as heck plus stimp seems too smart to be SO STUPID! lol. Heck I try to avoid as a guest even mentioning RU but stimp love's too at every chance force me too to create a rift here and divert the ACC antagonism to the B1G(sure stimp blame RU for being invited and Swoffy's dumb addition)...but im sure u already knew that Fishy.If "smooth" means "dense as f---", then I agree.
But if it makes you feel better, I think we lump you all into the same big pig pile of athletic meh overly rewarded for winning some sort of geographical lottery.
Thanks for the support guys, i appreciate it!I just deleted as u posted lol but it's at least equal or better than Cuse Fb. over the last decade
The Big 12 is also Iowa state,Kansas ,Kansas State,those schools don't have much in common with the Texas Or even Oklahoma schools.This is the kind of opening we(UConn) need to accelerate this slow efin AAU process to keep our head above water finacially,recruiting etc etc...no u know i want the big eastern schools to stay together. Keep ur fingers crossed!!Good luck..
The Midwest is going to have to get a Buzz now over Rutgers. ND is gone.
Financially and football wise that would be great for UConn. Not so good for Olympic athletes.
It also sets things up well for a major B1G expansion when the B12 TV contract/GoR expires. Presumably we'd be in a group of 4 (with Texas/Oklahoma/Kansas) that the B1G would have interest in.
It doesn't seem likely though - ESPN has rights to UConn/Cincy/USF/UCF for a pittance. Reportedly B12 has been unable to get extra money for expansion because Fox is willing to pay up but ESPN isn't. Why should ESPN pay an extra $40 mn to lose half the rights to UConn/Cincy/USF/UCF and devalue the rest of its AAC deal? It seems more likely it would be a UConn all sports and BYU football only deal; maybe the state has put some pressure on ESPN.
This is a good explanation. No way in Hell Espin is going to pay 10 times more for properties they already own the rights to. They will simply advise The Big 12-2 that it is not in their financial best interest to expand.
Hopefully, it is the B1G since we are now a perfect fit for it. .
Notre Dame is quite versed in the concept of associating itself with a hierarchy. In fact, it benefits immensely from its association with said hierarchy. In fact, its identity is completely wrapped up in it even though it often fails to live up to its own ideals.
Louisiana also benefits from such hierarchical benefits laid out in the Constitution, but that's another story...
Again with The Rutgers digs? It's starting to get a bit creepy. We get it. Rutgers doesn't have a tradition of athletic success comparable to a school like ND. Who cares? Every fan base has a handful of teams on their schedule that they are less than excited to see come to town. Do you honestly think FSU, Clemson, or Miami Fans are pumped about the prospect of playing Syracuse, Wake Forest, or BC in football?
Last time I checked The Irish weren't in The B1G, so all of this is moot anyway. UM, MSU, and Purdue can now replace The Irish with another quality OOC opponnent should they desire to do so. Tradition goes both ways. If ND and it's administration no longer value these matchups, The B1G and its members will eventually feel the same way.
While ND is good for business for these B1g Schools, so are they in return when visiting South Bend. I can assure you that the Midwestern Irish Fans who actually attend Irish Home games in THE STATE OF INDIANA, will miss seeing these traditional Midwestern Matchups. UVA will resonate about as much as ODU will on their home schedule. TV will also be affected, as these games have traditionally drawn strong ratings.
Rutgers is admittedly a gamble. Delany is gambling that RU can elevate it's program by recieving an improved conference payout. I believe they can as well. I don't ever see them being a power, as there is too much competition for talent in the state of NJ. That said being decent in Football and Basketball is not out of the question. In the mean time the conference will benefit from increased exposure in the NYC Market, increased cable fees in NJ, and greater access to a valuable recruiting territory.
If "smooth" means "dense as f---", then I agree.
But if it makes you feel better, I think we lump you all into the same big pig pile of athletic meh overly rewarded for winning some sort of geographical lottery.
Oddest? Maybe so. It is easily the most diverse. And that means it is the conference most like the country and its time zone. Some schools are located in large cities and some are in small towns.The Big 12 is also Iowa state,Kansas ,Kansas State,those schools don't have much in common with the Texas Or even Oklahoma schools.
For that matter BC and pick a southern ACC school.
Heck were talking South Carolina and Mass. A good portion of the formers states residents think the Pope is the Anti-Christ and Jesuits are hired assassins.
CR makes strange bedfellows.
Even the somewhat homogeneous conferences have exceptions,
Like Stamford,Northwestern,and Vanderbilt all privates in conferences dominated by publics.,but the ACC is by far the oddest collection of the P5
I attend a game in South Bend every other year. It would be more, but I am 1000 miles away in Baton Rouge.
This Irish fan will not miss any of the Big Ten games, at all. Tradition goes both ways, as you say. The Big Ten games can (and have) easily be replaced by games with FSU, Clemson, Miami, Georgia Tech, Texas, etc...
P.S. I have never made any digs against Rutgers or any other school in any post/thread. I wish Rutgers well. UConn, too.
Well, I don't get the comparison between a religion and an association of schools for playing sports, but ok.
Again with The Rutgers digs? It's starting to get a bit creepy. We get it. Rutgers doesn't have a tradition of athletic success comparable to a school like ND. Who cares? Every fan base has a handful of teams on their schedule that they are less than excited to see come to town. Do you honestly think FSU, Clemson, or Miami Fans are pumped about the prospect of playing Syracuse, Wake Forest, or BC in football?
Last time I checked The Irish weren't in The B1G, so all of this is moot anyway. UM, MSU, and Purdue can now replace The Irish with another quality OOC opponnent should they desire to do so. Tradition goes both ways. If ND and it's administration no longer value these matchups, The B1G and its members will eventually feel the same way.
While ND is good for business for these B1g Schools, so are they in return when visiting South Bend. I can assure you that the Midwestern Irish Fans who actually attend Irish Home games in THE STATE OF INDIANA, will miss seeing these traditional Midwestern Matchups. UVA will resonate about as much as ODU will on their home schedule. TV will also be affected, as these games have traditionally drawn strong ratings.
Rutgers is admittedly a gamble. Delany is gambling that RU can elevate it's program by recieving an improved conference payout. I believe they can as well. I don't ever see them being a power, as there is too much competition for talent in the state of NJ. That said being decent in Football and Basketball is not out of the question. In the mean time the conference will benefit from increased exposure in the NYC Market, increased cable fees in NJ, and greater access to a valuable recruiting territory.
I've been trying to figure out why so many UConn fans here, and maybe the Rutgers fans too, seem certain that before long we are going to be in the BeeOneGee. All I can come up with is that such a belief makes them feel better about their bitterness over not getting into the ACC - yet. If even mighty ND is going to be begging the BeeOneGee eventually, then UConn should do the same now.You need to read the entire thread. The whole debate was about some posters here insisting that the Irish are destined for the B1G and that the Midwest Schools gets a Buzz seeing the Irish. Despite denials by every Irish fan on here that they are ever going to be in the B1G, some posters here continue to insist that the Irish will be in the B1G and belong in the B1G and not the ACC. I was reaffirming as every Irish fan here has affirmed that the Irish are not going to the B1G and that those B1G schools need to get a Buzz seeing Rutgers, because is it Rutgers going to the B1G. No Irish. If you want to call that a Dig, go ahead. It is the B1G who in fact invited Rutgers. I do not share your optimism that some more TV money from the B1G will improve the competitive nature of these teams. I think it will just enable them to be more fat, dumb, and happy continuing to do as they have always done. But you may continue to. Maryland does have the better chance of the two because they have a winning tradition in former times in the men's sports. They do well in women's now.
Ldandy is actually a Penn State person and not a UConn person. He defends Rutgers and likes the addition to the Big Ten.I've been trying to figure out why so many UConn fans here, and maybe the Rutgers fans too, seem certain that before long we are going to be in the BeeOneGee. All I can come up with is that such a belief makes them feel better about their bitterness over not getting into the ACC - yet. If even mighty ND is going to be begging the BeeOneGee eventually, then UConn should do the same now.
It is also puzzling to me to see UConn fans so defensive of Rutgers.
Now that's funny. A Penn State fans who sees Rutgers as a great new best bud.Ldandy is actually a Penn State person and not a UConn person. He defends Rutgers and likes the addition to the Big Ten.