2023 Winter Non-UConn Recruiting Thread

[Coler]

How we feeling @Coler? Rutgers making some nice moves this off season.

I'm feeling better. Still would like a few more transfers as I think the roster sits at 9 for next year.

 

[BRS24]

Ok, let's try this again, with a few assumptions on why a 2023 player would decomit? My top guess is portal activity. So here's a swag at the schools that made the most noise during portal season. Feel free to add on if you think I've missed any potential targets.

My primary guesses are Duke, LSU, SC, TAMU,
Maybes - Virginia, Iowa State, UNC

What say you? I'll post the recruits in a bit if folks weigh in.

 

[UConnCat]

Anyone guess who this could be?

I would start with players ranked 50-59?

Quietly, but if you become an insider at some ridiculous price, you’ll know ahead of others which player it is. SMH.

 

[triaddukefan]

Ok, let's try this again, with a few assumptions on why a 2023 player would decomit? My top guess is portal activity. So here's a swag at the schools that made the most noise during portal season. Feel free to add on if you think I've missed any potential targets.

My primary guesses are Duke, LSU, SC, TAMU,
Maybes - Virginia, Iowa State, UNC

What say you? I'll post the recruits in a bit if folks weigh in.

Besides us fans wailing, pacing, and throwing objects, what kinda noise did Duke make in the portal season?

 

[Rooster C.]

Ok, let's try this again, with a few assumptions on why a 2023 player would decomit? My top guess is portal activity. So here's a a coupe of years.swag at the schools that made the most noise during portal season. Feel free to add on if you think I've missed any potential targets.

My primary guesses are Duke, LSU, SC, TAMU,
Maybes - Virginia, Iowa State, UNC

What say you? I'll post the recruits in a bit if folks weigh in.

If I'm Angelica Velez (#44) looking at that roster I may never see the court. At least not for a couple of years. I would look elsewhere.

 

[Rooster C.]

Besides us fans wailing, pacing, and throwing objects, what kinda noise did Duke make in the portal season?

Not much that I can recall. Good thing they picked up the two they did.

 

[triaddukefan]

Not much that I can recall. Good thing they picked up the two they did.

Ha. Emsbo committed so long ago, I had forgotten about her. Thanks for reminding me. Old age is a beast sometimes

 

[SECbbfan24]

If I'm Angelica Velez (#44) looking at that roster I may never see the court. At least not for a couple of years. I would look elsewhere.

How is this any different than SC, UCONN and others who have stacked teams with freshmen that have to wait their turn? But now LSU has too much talent and so young kids should transfer? I just have to laugh at this thought process

Also, if she is good she will eventually play and earn time. Hailey Van Lith might only be a one year deal even though she has two years left potentially. So Velez could potentially be the emerging candidate year 2 if she makes progress year one. I am still not fully convinced Poole is good enough to run the PG spot full time but she is important for depth purposes. Velez is most definitely going to be ahead of Poa (who isn't a true PG) on this years team

 

[Coler]

If I'm Angelica Velez (#44) looking at that roster I may never see the court. At least not for a couple of years. I would look elsewhere.

Asst. coach Redus was asked the question on podcast recently what the incoming freshmen thought of the talent they were bringing in from the portal....he said that the staff is very honest with them about their plans and he specifically named Velez is saying she was super excited about the Hailey Van Lith news. So that advise isn't needed.

 

[Rooster C.]

Asst. coach Redus was asked the question on podcast recently what the incoming freshmen thought of the talent they were bringing in from the portal....he said that the staff is very honest with them about their plans and he specifically named Velez is saying she was super excited about the Hailey Van Lith news. So that advise isn't needed.

So like Celeste Taylor stating publicly she was returning to Duke....got it.

 

[LwrcasefaN]

How is this any different than SC, UCONN and others who have stacked teams with freshmen that have to wait their turn? But now LSU has too much talent and so young kids should transfer? I just have to laugh at this thought process

Also, if she is good she will eventually play and earn time. Hailey Van Lith might only be a one year deal even though she has two years left potentially. So Velez could potentially be the emerging candidate year 2 if she makes progress year one. I am still not fully convinced Poole is good enough to run the PG spot full time but she is important for depth purposes. Velez is most definitely going to be ahead of Poa (who isn't a true PG) on this years team

I think the difference is building a team full of talent with consecutive recruiting classes where underclassmen expect to not play much as a Freshman or Sophomore, but LSU and others are interrupting this expected progression by using the portal. Now having said that TN is a little different. Their HS recruiting was on life support for a couple of years so...underclassmen didn't get kneecapped or underperformed. The second year TN raided the portal...there was a problem and underclassmen jumped ship. LSU took the same route, but the context was a little different in that there wasn't a lot of Frosh and Sophomores to nudge and the fact that Mulkey was starting anew there and assembling her own talent. She will have to revert to recruiting out of HS because I think it's a matter of time before transfer rules get more strict. Most teams use the portal to support a primary group...not replace them. If not for injuries...a player like Senechal may have played very little.

 

[SCGamecock]

Isn’t Velez the only true point guard on LSU’s roster? Doesn’t mean she’ll get a lot of playing time out the gate.. but she’s an actual point guard, unlike a lot of people on that roster that might end up playing there a lot this year. I’d stay if I’m her.

Now if Jaloni Cambridge goes to LSU then she should DEFINITELY pack it up. Expeditiously. Lol

 

[SECbbfan24]

I think the difference is building a team full of talent with consecutive recruiting classes where underclassmen expect to not play much as a Freshman or Sophomore, but LSU and others are interrupting this expected progression by using the portal. Now having said that TN is a little different. Their HS recruiting was on life support for a couple of years so...underclassmen didn't get kneecapped or underperformed. The second year TN raided the portal...there was a problem and underclassmen jumped ship. LSU took the same route, but the context was a little different in that there wasn't a lot of Frosh and Sophomores to nudge and the fact that Mulkey was starting anew there and assembling her own talent. She will have to revert to recruiting out of HS because I think it's a matter of time before transfer rules get more strict. Most teams use the portal to support a primary group...not replace them. If not for injuries...a player like Senechal may have played very little.

While I get that, Kim has only signed 2 recruiting classes at lsu. Flaujae started and Sa’Myah Smith got major minutes this past year. Mikaylah Williams will likely start and it’s not unreasonable that Velez gets some serviceable minutes off the bench and learn year 1. Advising Velez and LSUs incoming freshmen recruit to look else where because not all will start or get major minutes year one is silly to me.

Kim has heavily emphasized the future of the program will be built off HS recruits, but until she has 3-4 recruiting classes, transfers will bridge the gap until she gets more of her HS recruits in the mean time while also trying to build and maintain a program status.

Now if LSU signed a highly regarded 24 recruit, that may change the Velez situation greatly but she is fine right now.

 

[dws3665]

During her last years at Baylor, Kim's HS recruiting was pretty wobbly. Several transfers out, and she made heavy (and excellent) use of the transfer market for talent. Kim is recruiting the HS ranks better now at LSU than she did in her last years at Baylor, imo.

There were only 12 players on LSU's roster after the rebuild (and after Payne and Ware left early on), and only 8 of them played serious minutes (Ward, Besselman, Bartlett, and Williams did not). Of course Johnson and Smith played good minutes - someone had to.

I have no problem with any of this, but I do wonder -- players who need some time to develop: will they be given the chance, or will they be portaled over? (This comment is obviously made in the context of Kim at LSU, but I think it applies to lots of program that seem to rely on the portal -- Ole Miss comes to mind most obviously within the SEC.)

 

[cancontent]

During her last years at Baylor, Kim's HS recruiting was pretty wobbly. Several transfers out, and she made heavy (and excellent) use of the transfer market for talent. Kim is recruiting the HS ranks better now at LSU than she did in her last years at Baylor, imo.

There were only 12 players on LSU's roster after the rebuild (and after Payne and Ware left early on), and only 8 of them played serious minutes (Ward, Besselman, Bartlett, and Williams did not). Of course Johnson and Smith played good minutes - someone had to.

I have no problem with any of this, but I do wonder -- players who need some time to develop: will they be given the chance, or will they be portaled over? (This comment is obviously made in the context of Kim at LSU, but I think it applies to lots of program that seem to rely on the portal -- Ole Miss comes to mind most obviously within the SEC.)

Your comment about recruits getting portaled over is valid and it definitely applies to all conferences. Louisville could be seen as one example, especially last season. Just look at the transfer portal data on Raoul's website alone. I don't think there are a lot of teams with just one player leaving.

 

[BRS24]

Besides us fans wailing, pacing, and throwing objects, what kinda noise did Duke make in the portal season?

You got me. I was looking at the recruits list, although they did get Emsbo & Mair. I was focused on what teams had 3+ recruits and tried to link that with the portal.

 

[Geew1992]

 

[cancontent]

Louisville finally landed a big to help fill out the roster. Haven't heard of her, but considering who else offered, sounds like she has potential.

 

[UConnCat]

Seems plan is for this player to redshirt next season.

 

[Rooster C.]

Anybody know when these top international players usually commit?

Rank	Name	Country
1	Justus Jocyte	Lithuania
2	Dominique Malonga	France
3	Anastasiia Kosu	France
4	Cassandre roser	Canada
5	Annika Patricia Soltau	Germany
6	Nyadiew Puoch	Australia
7	Ariadna Termis Casas	Spain
8	Kati Ollilainen	Finland
9	Dyani Ananiev	Australia
10	Emily Kalenik	Poland
11	Dallas Loughridge	Australia
12	Georgia Grigoropoulou	Greece
13	Adja Kane	France
14	Isobel Borlase	Australia
15	Agata Makurat	Poland

 

[Geew1992]

Anybody know when these top international players usually commit?

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Rank	Name	Country
1	Justus Jocyte	Lithuania
2	Dominique Malonga	France
3	Anastasiia Kosu	France
4	Cassandre roser	Canada
5	Annika Patricia Soltau	Germany
6	Nyadiew Puoch	Australia
7	Ariadna Termis Casas	Spain
8	Kati Ollilainen	Finland
9	Dyani Ananiev	Australia
10	Emily Kalenik	Poland
11	Dallas Loughridge	Australia
12	Georgia Grigoropoulou	Greece
13	Adja Kane	France
14	Isobel Borlase	Australia
15	Agata Makurat	Poland

Agata has committed to Vanderbilt. The rest I have no idea but wouldn’t be surprised if most don’t.

 

[cancontent]

Anybody know when these top international players usually commit?

Rank	Name	Country
1	Justus Jocyte	Lithuania
2	Dominique Malonga	France
3	Anastasiia Kosu	France
4	Cassandre roser	Canada
5	Annika Patricia Soltau	Germany
6	Nyadiew Puoch	Australia
7	Ariadna Termis Casas	Spain
8	Kati Ollilainen	Finland
9	Dyani Ananiev	Australia
10	Emily Kalenik	Poland
11	Dallas Loughridge	Australia
12	Georgia Grigoropoulou	Greece
13	Adja Kane	France
14	Isobel Borlase	Australia
15	Agata Makurat	Poland

#4 is Cassandre Prosper. She was an early enrollee this year for Notre Dame. Not sure about the rest as some may opt not to play NCAA and stay in Europe to go pro.

 

[nwhoopfan]

I think Soltau committed to Washington.

 

[YoDore]

I think Soltau committed to Washington.

She did. I only paid attention because Vandy's staff appeared to be interested in her early in the process. She also visited Michigan and North Carolina.

 

[jake0414]

Anybody know when these top international players usually commit?

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Rank	Name	Country
1	Justus Jocyte	Lithuania
2	Dominique Malonga	France
3	Anastasiia Kosu	France
4	Cassandre roser	Canada
5	Annika Patricia Soltau	Germany
6	Nyadiew Puoch	Australia
7	Ariadna Termis Casas	Spain
8	Kati Ollilainen	Finland
9	Dyani Ananiev	Australia
10	Emily Kalenik	Poland
11	Dallas Loughridge	Australia
12	Georgia Grigoropoulou	Greece
13	Adja Kane	France
14	Isobel Borlase	Australia
15	Agata Makurat	Poland

Jocyte (Lyon, ASVEL- Ligue Femenine de Basketball ), Malonga (Lyon, ASVEL), Kosu (UMMC Ekaterinburg - Russian PBL), and Puoch (Jayco Southside Flyers, Australian WNBL) all play for top level professional teams. Not 100% sure but I think they’ve relinquished their eligibility to play NCAA WBB. Didn’t check #7-#14 in your list.