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If only they would turn it over to message board posters with sales experience UConn wouldn't be entering their third AAC season.
Or, athletic directors who are rock stars.
If only they would turn it over to message board posters with sales experience UConn wouldn't be entering their third AAC season.
By the way.... Oklahoma will be the one pushing for (2 of) those schools.Translation: The only reason the Big 12 should expand is for long term sustainability. The only two schools that may provide that is BYU and UConn. The lone problem: geography.
Again, I just don't see how/why the Big12 would add from Cincy, Memphis, Houston, UCF, USF. Before that happens, Oklahoma will bolt.
Big 12 would be smart to go all in and move to 16. UCF, USF, Cincy, Memphis, UConn, BYU.
BOOM
Can someone explain to me how adding a school like Memphis would really help Oklahoma in recruiting? To me, this is one of the most overstated reasons for adding a specific school. It would take years for Memphis to have any impact on OU and by then, the Big12 will already be extinct. OU sells itself to recruits and beating Memphis 72-0 at the Liberty Bowl(or wherever they play) isn't going to make one bit of difference. The key to conference stability is obtaining a network, which in turn relies on tv sets. Thats it. If any of the above schools mentioned would marginally benefit the Big12, another round of expansion would already have been announced. This is all smoke. OU doesn't want any part of adding two schools from that list, they are stirring up s%@t so they can parachute out. GOR be damned.
(For what its worth, I can argue a similar argument in regards to Kansas to the B1G. Does Kansas really bring more value to the B1G than UConn? If we disregard AAU status which UConn can obtain, the answer is a resounding NO. )
I fully understand that after getting kicked in the nuts so many times that this argument against UConn becomes reflexive. Aside from that, if you look at things objectively you quickly realize that UConn offers more than any other G5 school and more than most P5 schools. Time helps UConn. Time allows people to make rational choices. Adding Memphis or Cincy or UCF or USF or HOU or anyone not named BYU or UConn is impulsive and irrational. Truth is, if you take an undefeated FSU out of the ACC and replace with a 1 or 2 loss FSU, the Big12 in most years will get their team in over the title game winner from the atlantic coast. The outlier in all of this is just that: an undefeated FSU. Any other scenario and the ACC and its average football at best gets shut out.
Brand:
Pros - Tigers are scary, especially when they're mauling their handlers during a Vegas act; Memphis provided some cool backdrop shots to the shooting of the movie "The Firm"
Cons - ask 100 college fans "what school has a tiger for a mascot?" and 100/100 will answer "LSU"; no movie set has ever returned to Memphis after "The Firm" because, eh, we are talking about Memphis
Not 100%, afterall, there's that so-so football school in Alabama that also uses Tiger nickname. Though they mascot is an Eagle. Never understood that one. But, I know their fans are easily offended and may resort to violence.
Princeton.
Can someone explain to me how adding a school like Memphis would really help Oklahoma in recruiting? To me, this is one of the most overstated reasons for adding a specific school. It would take years for Memphis to have any impact on OU and by then, the Big12 will already be extinct. OU sells itself to recruits and beating Memphis 72-0 at the Liberty Bowl(or wherever they play) isn't going to make one bit of difference. The key to conference stability is obtaining a network, which in turn relies on tv sets. Thats it. If any of the above schools mentioned would marginally benefit the Big12, another round of expansion would already have been announced. This is all smoke. OU doesn't want any part of adding two schools from that list, they are stirring up s%@t so they can parachute out. GOR be damned.
(For what its worth, I can argue a similar argument in regards to Kansas to the B1G. Does Kansas really bring more value to the B1G than UConn? If we disregard AAU status which UConn can obtain, the answer is a resounding NO. )
I fully understand that after getting kicked in the nuts so many times that this argument against UConn becomes reflexive. Aside from that, if you look at things objectively you quickly realize that UConn offers more than any other G5 school and more than most P5 schools. Time helps UConn. Time allows people to make rational choices. Adding Memphis or Cincy or UCF or USF or HOU or anyone not named BYU or UConn is impulsive and irrational. Truth is, if you take an undefeated FSU out of the ACC and replace with a 1 or 2 loss FSU, the Big12 in most years will get their team in over the title game winner from the atlantic coast. The outlier in all of this is just that: an undefeated FSU. Any other scenario and the ACC and its average football at best gets shut out.
I think you are overestimating the rationality of the BXII. I think they will either do nothing, or make an impulsive knee jerk addition.Can someone explain to me how adding a school like Memphis would really help Oklahoma in recruiting? To me, this is one of the most overstated reasons for adding a specific school. It would take years for Memphis to have any impact on OU and by then, the Big12 will already be extinct. OU sells itself to recruits and beating Memphis 72-0 at the Liberty Bowl(or wherever they play) isn't going to make one bit of difference. The key to conference stability is obtaining a network, which in turn relies on tv sets. Thats it. If any of the above schools mentioned would marginally benefit the Big12, another round of expansion would already have been announced. This is all smoke. OU doesn't want any part of adding two schools from that list, they are stirring up s%@t so they can parachute out. GOR be damned.
(For what its worth, I can argue a similar argument in regards to Kansas to the B1G. Does Kansas really bring more value to the B1G than UConn? If we disregard AAU status which UConn can obtain, the answer is a resounding NO. )
I fully understand that after getting kicked in the nuts so many times that this argument against UConn becomes reflexive. Aside from that, if you look at things objectively you quickly realize that UConn offers more than any other G5 school and more than most P5 schools. Time helps UConn. Time allows people to make rational choices. Adding Memphis or Cincy or UCF or USF or HOU or anyone not named BYU or UConn is impulsive and irrational. Truth is, if you take an undefeated FSU out of the ACC and replace with a 1 or 2 loss FSU, the Big12 in most years will get their team in over the title game winner from the atlantic coast. The outlier in all of this is just that: an undefeated FSU. Any other scenario and the ACC and its average football at best gets shut out.
Why does that "logic" apply to those two conferences and not the B12? The Big East was interested in Temple, then they kicked them out and were not interested, and then they were interested again. Things change (sometimes).I would have thought the Big 10 or ACC would have added UConn years ago, but they clearly are not interested. They could each have UConn any time they wanted. They are not interested.
Why does that "logic" apply to those two conferences and not the B12? The Big East was interested in Temple, then they kicked them out and were not interested, and then they were interested again. Things change (sometimes).
The ACC Network is going to happen, but you can believe ESPN really doesn't want to do it.
Then why would it happen?
Because eventually their member schools are going to start losing a lot of money relative to what they'd be making with a network, and some of those members will leave the league. There's no way that ESPN can afford to tell the ACC that they won't pay for an ACCN while the Big 12 is actively seeking new membership. FOX is throwing stupid money around to really try to take ESPN's legs out from under them, and this is a great opportunity.
But the problem with ESPN starting an ACC Network is that it probably won't make much money - which is why they're reticent to start one.
If this was a venture that was going to start piling up money for its partners, don't you think ESPN would have already committed to it?
And if it came to the point where the ACC was to start losing members, ESPN can help guide some of that value to the SEC or whatever else they control at that point and just write down the ACC. It's not like they haven't done this before...
I think you are overestimating the rationality of the BXII. I think they will either do nothing, or make an impulsive knee jerk addition.
All it takes is the AD telling other schools & conferences what UConn brings and they will add us, nobody has added us so the AD must not have told them how good we are. Of course - it's so simple!If our AD is doing his job then no one should be making any knee jerk additions at this point unless they include UConn. Every AD, President, and League Commissioner should know what we bring, why it's important, how that adds value to their league, and what cool people we are. It seems like 1/2 the people on this board consider UConn's value to be zero. And we're the die hard fans. If that's the case then we are never getting out of the AAC. If any other school in the country had our resume they would instantly be picked up by a P5 conference. It's on our leadership to make it happen.