FWIW, The dude has some tweets, dating back a couple of days, in which he indicates that UCONN would be the number one candidate if the big 12 started its own network.
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...ok-east-not-west-if-league-decides-to-expand/
The next to last comment ( manifestdestiny2014 saysec 29, 2014 7:45 PM ) makes a lot of good points. I'm not vouching for the data. Big 12 folds, 4 power conferences of 16 teams each. A look at the programs in the running to fill the slots.
"Looking at TV markets at student population the most attractive of the non Big 12 teams would be:
UCF: 60K students, #18 TV market (Orlando)
USF: 50K Students, #14 TV market (Tampa)
Cinci: 44K Students, #35 TV Market
Memphis: 23K students, #50 TV Market
Houston:32K students, #10 TV market
BYU: 32K students, #33 TV market
San Diego St: 30K students, #28 TV market
UCONN: 25K students, #30 TV (New Haven)+NY
New Mex: 28K students,#47 TV (state)
UNLV or Nevada 27K students, #42 TV market"
Yes, for a network we're #1 and BYU #2, no one else adds much. For over the air TV brand matters much more.
For a network of course we're more valuable than BC, Cuse, Pitt, or Louisville, but that didn't matter to the ACC. Nevertheless it should be a key part of UConn's sales pitch to any conference: "The revenue streams are moving to networks, either conference networks or ESPN networks featuring a limited portfolio of conferences, and so even if your revenue isn't derived from a network now, your future revenue will be based on value to a network. UConn is one of the 30-40 most valuable properties in the country to a network. You can increase your average per-school value by adding UConn."
Well, the ACC is going to be meeting next week to discuss a network. Ironically, it is the President of FSU who is talking about it. Does the possiblility of an ACC network give us any hope?Yes, for a network we're #1 and BYU #2, no one else adds much. For over the air TV brand matters much more.
For a network of course we're more valuable than BC, Cuse, Pitt, or Louisville, but that didn't matter to the ACC. Nevertheless it should be a key part of UConn's sales pitch to any conference: "The revenue streams are moving to networks, either conference networks or ESPN networks featuring a limited portfolio of conferences, and so even if your revenue isn't derived from a network now, your future revenue will be based on value to a network. UConn is one of the 30-40 most valuable properties in the country to a network. You can increase your average per-school value by adding UConn."
You have to take a lot more into account. A school needs to be #1 in that market, or market size means nothing.
Second, I see you added NY (+NY). When you add Fairfield to Hart-NH's #30, then the Connecticut market jumps into the top 20.
Third, you have to look at the demographics as well. Per capita income and the like.
Also, TV ratings!!!
i think your contradicting yourself. you will give Uconn credit for NYC but UCF can't count Orlando? is either the # 1 in that respective market?You have to take a lot more into account. A school needs to be #1 in that market, or market size means nothing.
Second, I see you added NY (+NY). When you add Fairfield to Hart-NH's #30, then the Connecticut market jumps into the top 20.
Third, you have to look at the demographics as well. Per capita income and the like.
Also, TV ratings!!!
i think your contradicting yourself. you will give Uconn credit for NYC but UCF can't count Orlando? is either the # 1 in that respective market?
It stretches from Boston to Miami, but there's a giant hole in the middle called New York City and Philadelphia.The ACC broadcast footprint stretches from Boston to Miami and the Atlantic to Ohio and has more television households and population than any other conference.
I agree with most folks here that our goal should be the B1G, but hot damn would I love to stomp out ACC teams on the regular.I know you guys are skeptical. I know you guys think we all despise you but I hope that this would force the brain trust in Greensboro (the yahoo fans like a certain Fl. visitor are a lost cause, though) to evolve from their small-time thinking and actually think about how to best monetize content through exploiting markets. Imagine the UConn basketball team on the ACC Network.
It stretches from Boston to Miami, but there's a giant hole in the middle called New York City and Philadelphia.
Christopher Lambert@theDudeofWV 22m22 minutes ago
Announcement of ACCN imminent. Likely ends the possibility of P5 poaching of other P5 conf.
Michael @palmer4Cy 23m23 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV ACCN?
Jeff @saintwarrick 23m23 minutes ago
@palmer4Cy @theDudeofWV ACC Network, I assume.
Christopher Lambert@theDudeofWV 20m20 minutes ago
@saintwarrick @palmer4Cy Yes.
ME: Could a blind squirrel find a nut from time to time?
I know you guys are skeptical. I know you guys think we all despise you but I hope that this would force the brain trust in Greensboro (the yahoo fans like a certain Fl. visitor are a lost cause, though) to evolve from their small-time thinking and actually think about how to best monetize content through exploiting markets. Imagine the UConn basketball team on the ACC Network.
I know my ACC brethren on this board disagree with me, I know many UConn stalwarts on this board disagree with me, I still believe that UConn is so far superior to other #16 candidates (Notre Dame notwithstanding) and would help so much with an ACC Network that "15 teams" will not be a problem.
I know you guys are skeptical. I know you guys think we all despise you but I hope that this would force the brain trust in Greensboro (the yahoo fans like a certain Fl. visitor are a lost cause, though) to evolve from their small-time thinking and actually think about how to best monetize content through exploiting markets. Imagine the UConn basketball team on the ACC Network.
And I'll stick my nose in here one more time and say: If Conference Championship Game (/Division scheduling) deregulation passes -- and particularly if an ACC Network is formalized -- UConn could be added as #15 (without an accompanying #16).
I know my ACC brethren on this board disagree with me, I know many UConn stalwarts on this board disagree with me, I still believe that UConn is so far superior to other #16 candidates (Notre Dame notwithstanding) and would help so much with an ACC Network that "15 teams" will not be a problem.
There has to be a reason, usually monetary, for a conference to expand.
With the B1G almost certainly approaching contract negotiations, it should be known in the near future whether those negotiations make expansion desirable for the conference/media. The demand for quality sports TV viewing has been on an upswing. ESPN is chortling and selling ads, the BTN is making record money...I'd guess that the odds would be very good for B1G expansion.
I suspect that the Big 12 has not expanded solely for the reason that the media contractors would not guarantee that the current individual payouts would not suffer. Since the Big 12 does not have a conference network like the B1G, the dynamics of adding a program are different.
The ACC currently does not have a driver for expansion. With a ACCN at least two to three years out (if at all), no contract negotiations going on, the only thing that could drive expansion would be the five year "look in". If ESPN said it would make it worthwhile, the ACC could add a program, and wait for ND before adding another.