CBSSPORTS Renewal

[ZooCougar]

@ZooCougar thinks that if we just do the same thing harder, we will be invited to join the ACC. It is the definition of insanity. We don't need more exposure, we need to change the game.

There is nothing we can do to get into the ACC.

 

[ZooCougar]

Instead of attacking every poster, maybe some actual research would help you out?

From https://lsufootball.net/tvschedule.htm (a great source)

P5 games on streaming W1:

East Carolina at Michigan

11:00 am

Peacock

Mercer at Ole Miss

1:00 pm

SECN+ Video / $espn+ Video

Colgate at Syracuse

2:30 pm

Video: ACCNX / $espn+

Northern Iowa at Iowa State

1:00 pm

$espn+ Video

Western Carolina at Arkansas

3:00 pm

Video: SECN+ Video / $espn+

UT Martin at Georgia

5:00 pm

Video: SECN+ Video / $espn+

Alabama A&M at Vanderbilt

6:00 pm

Video: SECN+ Video / $espn+

Yeah those are some pretty huge matchups.

 

[pepband99]

Yeah those are some pretty huge matchups.

Nothing as huge as your dodging this one, internet big man...

Agreed. You can’t watch UConn games on paramount+ without a linear login.

$20 to husky ticket project to who is wrong?

 

[ZooCougar]

Nothing as huge as your dodging this one, internet big man...

Yeah those matchups with West Carolina Tech will be having everyone signing up. We might run out of bandwidth.

 

[pepband99]

Yeah those matchups with West Carolina Tech will be having everyone signing up. We might run out of bandwidth.

Still dodging the fact you're wrong (again) and won't man up to put it on the line. Sad.

 

[UConnJim]

Yeah those matchups with West Carolina Tech will be having everyone signing up. We might run out of bandwidth.

Peacock has 10 college football exclusive games this year. Four have been announced:

ECU @ Michigan
Delaware @ Penn State
Central Michigan @ Notre Dame
Washington @ Michigan State.

Also, there will be 6 other Big 10 games that will be Peacock exclusive including games with Ohio St., Iowa, and Wisconsin.

Peacock has only ~30 million users.

 

[ZooCougar]

Peacock has 10 college football exclusive games this year. Four have been announced:

ECU @ Michigan
Delaware @ Penn State
Central Michigan @ Notre Dame
Washington @ Michigan State.

Also, there will be 6 other Big 10 games that will be Peacock exclusive including games with Ohio St., Iowa, and Wisconsin.

Peacock has only ~30 million users.

Oh man. Better not cancel my Peacock sub. Don’t want to miss that Delaware game.

 

[ZooCougar]

Ok internet tough guy. Was going to offer you a beer at a tailgate to settle, but you're clearly "special."

Go ahead and take your place next to Chief in the pantheon of bad doubled-down takes, probably at 11:11AM.

Oh that hits hard.

Maybe we can put UConn on Freevee and that will put us over the top.

 

[pepband99]

Please enlighten me on finding the UConn game on Paramount Plus. Keep in mind that I do not have a live TV subscription or any cable services, but I do have Paramount Plus. I will not be able to attend any games this year, and if I can get the game that way, it would certainly make my day.

You'll be waiting a while...

 

[ZooCougar]

Please enlighten me on finding the UConn game on Paramount Plus. Keep in mind that I do not have a live TV subscription or any cable services, but I do have Paramount Plus. I will not be able to attend any games this year, and if I can get the game that way, it would certainly make my day.

My advice is to not waste your money on Paramount and get YouTube Tv instead.

 

[businesslawyer]

The production on CBSSN was light years better than the crap on ESPN+ or even ESPNU.

CBSSN games are produced by CBS employees. ESPN+ games are produced by the school. Yes, their productions won’t be as good, but how not as good they are depend entirely on the money the school wants to put into it.

McPeak was just a mistake. Presumably it will be rectified by someone in Black Rock, as that wasn’t a UConn hire — it was a CBS hire.

 

[noeynox]

ESPNU games seem lacking as well. As for ESPN+, that FIU game last year was not safe for folks with epilepsy.

 

[huskymedic]

New Summit League & CBS Sports Network Deal:

 

[Dizzy21]

Looks like Amazon just launched a free streaming Fire TV that will apparently carry CBS Sports. It looks like you don't even have to buy any subscription to get the games streaming online now. Amazon launches a Fire TV Channels app with 400+ free ad-supported TV channels | TechCrunch

 

[businesslawyer]

New Summit League & CBS Sports Network Deal:

Idiots. They don’t know that linear television is already dead. All they have to do is read The Boneyard and know which posters to listen to

 

[ZooCougar]

ESPNU games seem lacking as well. As for ESPN+, that FIU game last year was not safe for folks with epilepsy.

High School games on public access cable had better production.

 

[ZooCougar]

Idiots. They don’t know that linear television is already dead. All they have to do is read The Boneyard and know which posters to listen to

Interesting. The coaches wanted the exposure that linear gives you. Makes sense to me.

I have never heard of Midco. Sounds like they have a solid niche though. Those Dakota schools have devoted fanbases.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Idiots. They don’t know that linear television is already dead. All they have to do is read The Boneyard and know which posters to listen to

You are really losing your fastball. It is worth its own thread, but your recent efforts are a shadow of your former posting.

Did you even read the link? If all you really got out of that article was "Linear is the best", then you completely missed the point. Quotes from the Summit League Commissioner:

“The number one priority was expanded linear transmission. We believe that linear transmission still matters today. I’m not suggesting it’s going to matter the same way in five or ten years from now, but today, it does matter. We got a lot of feedback from our constituents, particularly our basketball coaches, in that regard.”

“Our second priority was revenue. For this particular deal, even beyond a rights fee, there are some opportunities to earn some revenue share, based on subscriber numbers.”

“Our third priority was building a brand and a better fan experience. In our previous deals, our digital component was pretty fragmented, and our linear distribution was limited.”

“And then lastly, was protecting local and regional relationships. We have several institutions that have existing local broadcast relationships that are financially important, or important from an exposure perspective.”

This is a roadmap for the Big East, hopefully with much bigger numbers.

 

[pepband99]

You are really losing your fastball. It is worth its own thread, but your recent efforts are a shadow of your former posting.

Did you even read the link? If all you really got out of that article was "Linear is the best", then you completely missed the point. Quotes from the Summit League Commissioner:









This is a roadmap for the Big East, hopefully with much bigger numbers.

...maybe. Let's be clear - this is the summit league. They put revenue 2nd, because their revenue is likely to be next to nothing, in any case. If you're making nothing, it's better to make nothing on a linear network (see UConn Football, ironically)

I would think the BE would prioritize revenue first, but with a view as to how it impacts linear vs. streaming. It would take a moderately bigger number to make streaming only work.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

...maybe. Let's be clear - this is the summit league. They put revenue 2nd, because their revenue is likely to be next to nothing, in any case. If you're making nothing, it's better to make nothing on a linear network (see UConn Football, ironically)

I would think the BE would prioritize revenue first, but with a view as to how it impacts linear vs. streaming. It would take a moderately bigger number to make streaming only work.

The Summit did a hybrid. Have cake and eat it too. What's not to like if the numbers are right?

 

[pepband99]

The Summit did a hybrid. Have cake and eat it too. What's not to like if the numbers are right?

Giving too much credit here.

They found an RSN willing to pay them more to keep the RSN more relevant, and a linear niche channel giving them more slots.

You would see torches and pitchforks here if we leaned into an RSN model these days.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Giving too much credit here.

They found an RSN willing to pay them more to keep the RSN more relevant, and a linear niche channel giving them more slots.

You would see torches and pitchforks here if we leaned into an RSN model these days.

You are way too deep into the weeds of this particular agreement. Obviously some things would be different for a nationally recognized league the Big East.

Fox for linear, but a DTC streaming solution together with a local network could build up a subscriber base over time. Fox needs the content, and their market reach is shrinking. Seems like a good situation for the Big East.

 

[pepband99]

You are way too deep into the weeds of this particular agreement. Obviously some things would be different for a nationally recognized league the Big East.

Fox for linear, but a DTC streaming solution together with a local network could build up a subscriber base over time. Fox needs the content, and their market reach is shrinking. Seems like a good situation for the Big East.

I don't disagree, but what would the cut look like?

Right now, we have sliver of FOX, majority FS1, and a sprinkling of FS2. If FOX wanted to bolster their own streaming service, how much would we need to make games on that work? Assuming 100% of the FS2 (and CBSSN bought) games would move, how much of the FS1 ones would?

In theory, you could come up with a multiplier, and work it out that way. 1 FS2 game is probably worth 3 FS1 games, ratings-wise. FOX would be something like 15x. Total guesses here, but you could see how this would be thought out.

For a quaint comparison - here is some commentary from the original 2013 deal: The Big East's impressive new TV deal