ACC expansion

[billybud]

During the 1990 season, the group of independent teams included the Noles along with Miami, Notre Dame, Penn State, Syracuse, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, Louisville, Pittsburgh, South Carolina and over a dozen more teams.

I know that I am dating myself, but I was sitting in the stands before Bobby Bowden came in 1975...those 15 years of indy play under Bowden were great years for a fan (but you had to travel).

 

[NH Husky]

I actually find most SU fans, in person, to enjoy the rivalry and for it to be a, largely, friendly one. It's just those misanthropes on the Syracuse board that have a weird obsession with us.

Big difference in how someone behaves face-to-face versus hiding behind the cloak of the internet.

 

[bendm]

https://www.si.com/college/georgiat...-pushing-hard-for-acc-to-add-cal-and-stanfordConference Realignment: Notre Dame "Pushing hard" for ACC to add Cal and Stanford

 

[CoastAtlantic]

State of ACC and realignment: What's next for Florida State and the conference?

Now that the deadline for teams to exit the ACC for 2024 has passed, we break down what happened and what's next.

www.espn.com

 

[billybud]

State of ACC and realignment: What's next for Florida State and the conference?

Now that the deadline for teams to exit the ACC for 2024 has passed, we break down what happened and what's next.

www.espn.com

The paragraph that laid it out...

So in the end, there was not enough support among the ACC presidents. Adding just to add, with zero financial benefit, did not make sense to the four schools not in favor, according to multiple sources. Still, ACC commissioner Jim Phillips said as recently as July 27 -- the day Colorado left for the Big 12 -- the league would continue to actively consider adding teams, with an emphasis on finding value in any expansion option.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

The paragraph that laid it out...

So in the end, there was not enough support among the ACC presidents. Adding just to add, with zero financial benefit, did not make sense to the four schools not in favor, according to multiple sources. Still, ACC commissioner Jim Phillips said as recently as July 27 -- the day Colorado left for the Big 12 -- the league would continue to actively consider adding teams, with an emphasis on finding value in any expansion option.

There isn't anyone left to add of value other than UConn. They are tied by the ACC ESPN contract. When the GOR is near its end, the raiding will start.

 

[NE Football]

2036 is a long way off. Everything depends on what financial shape ESPN is in and who their media partner will be. At the end of day, the SEC and the B1G might grow to 20 teams and the ACC or the B12 whichever survives will also have 20 teams.

 

[Ha Who]

2036 is a long way off. Everything depends on what financial shape ESPN is in and who their media partner will be. At the end of day, the SEC and the B1G might grow to 20 teams and the ACC or the B12 whichever survives will also have 20 teams.

Or like the baby bells they all break apart

How AT&T got busted up and pieced back together

AT&T was broken up into "Baby Bells" in 1984. Most of those have since melted back together.

money.cnn.com

 

[nelsonmuntz]

2036 is a long way off. Everything depends on what financial shape ESPN is in and who their media partner will be. At the end of day, the SEC and the B1G might grow to 20 teams and the ACC or the B12 whichever survives will also have 20 teams.

The nature of a conference affiliation could change quite a bit as the massive linear deals roll off. There are going to be some winners and losers within the current conferences.

 

[upstater]

The nature of a conference affiliation could change quite a bit as the massive linear deals roll off. There are going to be some winners and losers within the current conferences.

Whoever doesn't already have facilities would be foolish to build them. California and West Virginia are experiencing massive shortfalls because of all they've invested in buildouts recently. If schools don't heed their troubles, they are liable to make things extremely bad in a decade.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Whoever doesn't already have facilities would be foolish to build them. California and West Virginia are experiencing massive shortfalls because of all they've invested in buildouts recently. If schools don't heed their troubles, they are liable to make things extremely bad in a decade.

West Virginia’s problems are mostly a function of joining the growth rat race for students without considering that they were WVU and kids didn’t want to go to the school or the state unless they had already been rejected everywhere else. I read that WVU has capacity for 33% more kids than they actually have, and the demographic cliff starts next year.

 

[Kolumbo]

"Due on the vine." Some feel the same way about UConn basketball.

Stanford and Cal can ‘die on the vine,’ says ACC head coach

Conference realignment has slowed of late, following the recent exodus of teams from the Pac-12 to the Big Ten (Oregon and Washington) and Big 12 (Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado and Utah), but there continues to be discourse surrounding the remaining four Pac-12 schools — Cal, Stanford, Oregon...

sports.yahoo.com

“If you put those two schools in the ACC, it’s going to be so easy for them to recruit nationally. So it will just benefit them in my opinion, not us,” Dorrance said. “There’s no way I want to share the glory of our conference with two schools that could do a very good job recruiting against us.”

He continued: “So basically I want Cal and Stanford die on the vine."

 

[nelsonmuntz]

"Due on the vine." Some feel the same way about UConn basketball.

Stanford and Cal can ‘die on the vine,’ says ACC head coach

Conference realignment has slowed of late, following the recent exodus of teams from the Pac-12 to the Big Ten (Oregon and Washington) and Big 12 (Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado and Utah), but there continues to be discourse surrounding the remaining four Pac-12 schools — Cal, Stanford, Oregon...

sports.yahoo.com

“If you put those two schools in the ACC, it’s going to be so easy for them to recruit nationally. So it will just benefit them in my opinion, not us,” Dorrance said. “There’s no way I want to share the glory of our conference with two schools that could do a very good job recruiting against us.”

He continued: “So basically I want Cal and Stanford die on the vine."

with their alumni, Cal and Stanford could take every single player of UNC's team the last day the Transfer Portal was open for the next 5 years, without even putting a dent in their financial firepower. Dorrance needs to choose his enemies a little better.

 

[RioDog]

"Due on the vine." Some feel the same way about UConn basketball.

Stanford and Cal can ‘die on the vine,’ says ACC head coach

Conference realignment has slowed of late, following the recent exodus of teams from the Pac-12 to the Big Ten (Oregon and Washington) and Big 12 (Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado and Utah), but there continues to be discourse surrounding the remaining four Pac-12 schools — Cal, Stanford, Oregon...

sports.yahoo.com

“If you put those two schools in the ACC, it’s going to be so easy for them to recruit nationally. So it will just benefit them in my opinion, not us,” Dorrance said. “There’s no way I want to share the glory of our conference with two schools that could do a very good job recruiting against us.”

He continued: “So basically I want Cal and Stanford die on the vine."

What a dumb-@$$ statement- Can't believe his AD or President are happy about the optics of such a rash public comment- even if they feel the same way.

 

[superjohn]

with their alumni, Cal and Stanford could take every single player of UNC's team the last day the Transfer Portal was open for the next 5 years, without even putting a dent in their financial firepower. Dorrance needs to choose his enemies a little better.

Sure they could, you're so unbelievably clueless.

 

[JeepCSC]

I mean conference realignment is a giant “dying on the vine”. Everyone involved, from presidents to coaches to tv execs, have already written off the Cougars and Beavers. Isn’t really nicer saying it behind closed doors.

 

[billybud]

Dorrance is the Women's Soccer Coach at UNC...

Nuff said

UNC was runner up to Stanford in 2019

In the last 8 years...FSU has won 3 NC's, Stanford won 2, and UNC 0

Stanford has 3 NC's since 2010 in Women's Soccer.

 

[upstater]

West Virginia’s problems are mostly a function of joining the growth rat race for students without considering that they were WVU and kids didn’t want to go to the school or the state unless they had already been rejected everywhere else. I read that WVU has capacity for 33% more kids than they actually have, and the demographic cliff starts next year.

Nothing to do with the demographic cliff. That’s a convenient excuse for massive mismanagement. Half a billion in new buildings and athletic facilities and no way to pay for it. It’s mismanagement. I always flat out reject this idea of a demographic cliff when you realize we had 9.5m students at 4 yr institutions in 1969 and now we have 10.5m. Back then total population was under 200m. This is all by design, it’s a choice.

 

[upstater]

West Virginia’s problems are mostly a function of joining the growth rat race for students without considering that they were WVU and kids didn’t want to go to the school or the state unless they had already been rejected everywhere else. I read that WVU has capacity for 33% more kids than they actually have, and the demographic cliff starts next year.

My main point is that, if TV revenues are going to contract, you’re going to damage your university if you take on huge loans you can’t pay back

 

[noeynox]

Dorrance is the Women's Soccer Coach at UNC...

Nuff said

UNC was runner up to Stanford in 2019

In the last 8 years...FSU has won 3 NC's, Stanford won 2, and UNC 0

Stanford has 3 NC's since 2010 in Women's Soccer.

Billy, i don't know who needs to hear this, but no one here gives a flying chicken cluck what FSU accomplishments are. Nuff said.

 

[billybud]

Just pointing out that after an unprecedented run of Women's Soccer NC's...UNC has gottem pricklish about the competition of late...

And bringing in a competitor like Stanford didn't tickle the UNC coach's fancy.

 

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