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Are you bragging or complaining? Actually, there is a difference between an average and an outlier. Are you an outlier or an out and out liar? :rolleyes: Some people's brains just don't mature properly. ;) I am guessing the words concerning your wife and daughter are saying they both took up flying after 30. Heredity can be a terrible thing. :eek:
I wasn't going to brag about my grandson --he too is a flyer--took the written test for Naval Aviation
Pilot training--and came 2 point from ace-ing it, now on to the physical. He took his pilot training in England while getting his masters--came home to join the Navy. Bursting with pride and braggin--you bet the thing you are sitting on--yes that old chair.
 
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Interesting question of "greatest athletic feat". Human against object rather than human against another human (athletic or sport contest). The mountain can't play defense :)
 

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Interesting question of "greatest athletic feat". Human against object rather than human against another human (athletic or sport contest). The mountain can't play defense :)

The mountain most assuredly can play defense. It can seep water on the day you climb. Birds and small rodents can stroll out on your arm when you place a hand in a crevice. Or simply break off when you shift your weight. Is the decathlon an athletic endeavor or a sporting event? Is a marathon an athletic endeavor or sporting event? Are they really competing against another athlete or against the limits of their abilities and endurance? Where is the defense in the decathlon or marathon? Defense in the high jump? None? Are the Olympics not a sporting event filled with athletic feats? Are there no athletic feats within a sporting event? You are splitting hairs. Free soloing a sheer cliff for 4 hours is a real test of endurance, strength, flexibility, and serious mental toughness. The competition in mountain climbing is against other climbers. Can they climb what you just climbed? How fast can they climb it? Speed records are maintained. Was the easy or hard route taken? What equipment is used or not used? Defense does not make a sporting event or athletic feat.

Is it sporting event or athletic event? The same? ;)
 
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The mountain most assuredly can play defense. It can seep water on the day you climb. Birds and small rodents can stroll out on your arm when you place a hand in a crevice. Or simply break off when you shift your weight. Is the decathlon an athletic endeavor or a sporting event? Is a marathon an athletic endeavor or sporting event? Are they really competing against another athlete or against the limits of their abilities and endurance? Where is the defense in the decathlon or marathon? Defense in the high jump? None? Are the Olympics not a sporting event filled with athletic feats? Are there no athletic feats within a sporting event? You are splitting hairs. Free soloing a sheer cliff for 4 hours is a real test of endurance, strength, flexibility, and serious mental toughness. The competition in mountain climbing is against other climbers. Can they climb what you just climbed? How fast can they climb it? Speed records are maintained. Was the easy or hard route taken? What equipment is used or not used? Defense does not make a sporting event or athletic feat.

Is it sporting event or athletic event? The same? ;)
I wrote that of course with the same tongue-in-cheek as did you, since we both ended with emojis. My main point is that there seems to be a very vague and broad division between competing against another human directly or indirectly (and does that include,say, chess?) and accomplishing something for personal pride and not against another human. is there a difference between first up mt Everest with a Sherpa guide, oxygen, and a support team at base camp and being the first human on the moon? Just my wasting time splitting hairs 'cause it's summer. :)
 

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