Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[hank970]

The reason the ACC doesnt value basketball is primarily because of the southern football first schools and their complete dominance over the entire conference. When they leave that issue goes out the door but they will quite possibly liquidate the ACC on the way out. It's funny how the programs that hold everyone else's nuts to the fire are the ones with a foot out the door and zero future commitment ... see pac12

I can't decide if I'd be happier with UConn getting an offer to join the ACC or if greater joy would come from watching the ACC completely implode, even at our peril

Not so. FSU and Clemson currently may have more prominent football programs than the rest of the ACC-at-large, but they don't dominate the conference in any other way. The charter North Carolina institutions, most of which (and maybe all) are traditionally basketball-first schools, are the ones that pull the strings. That's why FSU and Clemson want out -- that, and dreams of P2 money.

Football may generate higher revenues, but any conference worth its salt is going to want member institutions to excel at both football and basketball. The two so-called money sports aren't mutually exclusive. Toward that end, we're seeing the football-first southern P2 schools like Alabama starting to put more emphasis on hoops. Will they succeed? A lot depends on what coaches they can attract and keep. When you have money to burn, that's a lot easier.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Something that may have gone unnoticed by a few, and will be a hit to Duke overall, was the announcement that 28 year president of CBS Sports (and Duke alumnus) Sean McManus is retiring (they announced this would be his last NCAA tournament, at some point this spring he will be done).

Duke basketball received a considerable amount of favorable exposure (I can get into some details later) that many questioned as excessive favoritism during his time there.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

 

[Drew]

 

[huskymedic]

Shortcut

 

[freescooter]

Write it down. Within 5 years there will be a push for the G 5 champ to play the P2 champ.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Write it down. Within 5 years there will be a push for the G 5 champ to play the P2 champ.

If the G5 breaks off, within 10 years there will not be a college football championship that anyone cares about.

 

[TheCatsLair]

Write it down. Within 5 years there will be a push for the G 5 champ to play the P2 champ.

The P4 champ and yep, I could see that.

 

[John]

If the G5 breaks off, within 10 years there will not be a college football championship that anyone cares about.

Incorrect. People who care about sports enjoy high level competition regardless of the team's playing.

 

[Patman]

If the G5 breaks off, within 10 years there will not be a college football championship that anyone cares about.

Incorrect. People who care about sports enjoy high level competition regardless of the team's playing.

Ultimately John is correct. Is anybody really going dispute a 2 loss P2/4 champ over an undefeated G5 champ?

No, they aren't, not seriously at least, and the stakeholders, likely ESPN plus somebody else, probably Fox, are going to be the sanctifying bulwark.

 

[B1GEast]

The group of 5 should partner with the Big 12 and ACC and not schedule any games vs the B1G or SEC.

Let the power two play each other in their own sandbox and see who cares.

 

[billybud]

Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.

 

[KryHavok]

The group of 5 should partner with the Big 12 and ACC and not schedule any games vs the B1G or SEC.

Let the power two play each other in their own sandbox and see who cares.

I can't like this post enough and agree whole heartedly. The catch is that the P2 will have most of the football powers and an overwhelming majority of the recent football champions, so the casual fan + the P2 fans will likely be okay with just the P2 semi-pro wannabe athlete/part-time student playoff while true P3-4 + G5 fans will be lamenting our also ran NIT-like tourney.

 

[TheCatsLair]

I can't like this post enough and agree whole heartedly. The catch is that the P2 will have most of the football powers and an overwhelming majority of the recent football champions, so the casual fan + the P2 fans will likely be okay with just the P2 semi-pro wannabe athlete/part-time student playoff while true P3-4 + G5 fans will be lamenting our also ran NIT-like tourney.

TV will never be happy with a SEC/B1G only playoffsl

 

[Rufus]

The catch is that the P2 will have most of the football powers and an overwhelming majority of the recent football champions, so the casual fan + the P2 fans will likely be okay with just the P2 semi-pro wannabe athlete/part-time student playoff while true P3-4 + G5 fans will be lamenting our also ran NIT-like tourney.

Something to consider here..........let's assume that Florida State, Clemson, and Miami find landing spots in the SEC or B1G. Let's also assume that if Notre Dame does not join the B1G and remains independent that the P2 invite ND to their breakaway playoff.

The P2 will have every national champion in football since 1959 except for 4:

1990 - Georgia Tech and Colorado
1984 - BYU
1976 - Pittsburgh
1959 - Syracuse

That's it for non-P2 national champions.

Only 4 since 1959 and none since 1990.

 

[The Yakk]

Something to consider here..........let's assume that Florida State, Clemson, and Miami find landing spots in the SEC or B1G. Let's also assume that if Notre Dame does not join the B1G and remains independent that the P2 invite ND to their breakaway playoff.

The P2 will have every national champion in football since 1959 except for 4:

1990 - Georgia Tech and Colorado
1984 - BYU
1976 - Pittsburgh
1959 - Syracuse

That's it for non-P2 national champions.

Only 4 since 1959 and none since 1990.

Congrats, I guess, for consolidating into a cartel that will never again allow a new champion to pop up out of nowhere.

In an unrelated story, the massive financial returns earned by the pro sports leagues in the last 50 years have come with EXPANSION. Growing the sports and adding fans.

It's interesting that the power brokers for college sports think that CONTRACTION is the way to go. Best of luck with that.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Incorrect. People who care about sports enjoy high level competition regardless of the team's playing.

College sports is a minor league. The Detroit Pistons would go 4-0 in a 7 game series against UConn, winning each game by 30+ points. So you are incorrect.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Something to consider here..........let's assume that Florida State, Clemson, and Miami find landing spots in the SEC or B1G. Let's also assume that if Notre Dame does not join the B1G and remains independent that the P2 invite ND to their breakaway playoff.

The P2 will have every national champion in football since 1959 except for 4:

1990 - Georgia Tech and Colorado
1984 - BYU
1976 - Pittsburgh
1959 - Syracuse

That's it for non-P2 national champions.

Only 4 since 1959 and none since 1990.

Which team are we all going to become fans of after UConn’s athletic program is shut down?

 

[MKH2317]

Which team are we all going to become fans of after UConn’s athletic program is shut down?

I will boycott

 

[The Yakk]

Which team are we all going to become fans of after UConn’s athletic program is shut down?

I'll be rooting for whichever private equity firm swindles FSU into a deal to foreclose on FSU's tuition revenue when cfb media revenue craters after the consolidation.

And then for FSU to file a Hail Mary lawsuit to try to get out of the contract, because of the unfairness of it all.

 

[GoConn]

good thing were independent, so we won't qualify for the G5 loser bowl

 

[CL82]

Congrats, I guess, for consolidating into a cartel that will never again allow a new champion to pop up out of nowhere.

In an unrelated story, the massive financial returns earned by the pro sports leagues in the last 50 years have come with EXPANSION. Growing the sports and adding fans.

It's interesting that the power brokers for college sports think that CONTRACTION is the way to go. Best of luck with that.

I think their game plan is more consolidation than contraction.

 

[B1GEast]

TV will never be happy with a SEC/B1G only playoffsl

It could be done and the Big 12 commish could create a playoff scenario that's fair. He could pay the group of 5 a better rate and give them two or three slots and have the 12 and the ACC fight over the remaining 5 or 6 playoff slots.

No bye weeks, get private funding and have a playoff after 2026.

It's ballsy but it would take power away from the big 2.

You'd have a whole new football conferences minus the 2 leagues that can go to hell.

There would be 2 NCAA champions. Nobody would care about the big 2 winner.

Notre Dame, Liberty and UConn would have access.

 

[Luna]

College sports is a minor league. The Detroit Pistons would go 4-0 in a 7 game series against UConn, winning each game by 30+ points. So you are incorrect.

Not sure about that with last year’s UConn team

 

[Stinger92860]

College sports is a minor league. The Detroit Pistons would go 4-0 in a 7 game series against UConn, winning each game by 30+ points. So you are incorrect.

How about Charlotte?