RedStickHusky
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This is the Big East. Tell me it can't be both.
If it’s a natural basketball motion i.e. moving your arms to get into shooting position, it’s not a foul if your elbow hits the defender’s jaw or forehead. The defender needs to be aware that the shooter has the right to shoot the ball with his normal arm motion and get their face out of the way.I still don't understand how being elbowed in the head is not a foul of any kind.
Well, because it's common and therefore unreviewableI still don't understand how being elbowed in the head is not a foul of any kind.
That shouldn't matter, your right to swing your arms ends at the defenders body.If it’s a natural basketball motion i.e. moving your arms to get into shooting position, it’s not a foul if your elbow hits the defender’s jaw or forehead. The defender needs to be aware that the shooter has the right to shoot the ball with his normal arm motion and get their face out of the way.
If the video shows the shooter purposely raised his elbow higher than his normal shooting motion, to hit the defender in the face, then it would be a foul.
He shouldn't have let his head be in the way. DuhThat shouldn't matter, your right to swing your arms ends at the defenders body.
Fouls do not have to be on purpose. Often on rebounds, guys have their arms over their heads and turn to look up court. If their elbows hit someone in the head, it is almost always called a foul, although it is unintentional and a normal basketball move.
You are responsible for your body.
It does matter because the offensive player has the right to his own space when shooting the ball. If the defender is invading the shooter’s space, then it’s okay to have your elbow hit his face. That’s actually the rule.That shouldn't matter, your right to swing your arms ends at the defenders body.
Fouls do not have to be on purpose. Often on rebounds, guys have their arms over their heads and turn to look up court. If their elbows hit someone in the head, it is almost always called a foul, although it is unintentional and a normal basketball move.
You are responsible for your body.
I think the way the referees are actually officiating the rule has changed but the rule itself has not changed as far as I know. Using common sense, Karaban himself was fouled and not the shooter but the rule does state that the shooter has the right to shoot the ball and the contact is incidental if it’s a normal motion.I can recall plenty of times (over many years, not anything specific recently) where UConn players have made incidental elbow contact with opposing players' heads while making normal basketball motions that were called flagrant. Have the guidelines changed or is it just that there will always be some crummy calls.
They did review it and decided it was incidental contact and a foul on Karaban.Well, because it's common and therefore unreviewable
Yeah, that's not the rules of basketball.That shouldn't matter, your right to swing your arms ends at the defenders body.
Fouls do not have to be on purpose. Often on rebounds, guys have their arms over their heads and turn to look up court. If their elbows hit someone in the head, it is almost always called a foul, although it is unintentional and a normal basketball move.
You are responsible for your body.
You are responsible for your body.
Yeah, that's not the rules of basketball.
Just as a thought exercise, hold something above your head with both hands. Now turn to face 180°away without moving your feet...The rules of basketball allow you to hit a guy in the head with your elbow? Really. They don't even allow that in football.
The dribbler must be in control of his body at all times. If illegal contact occurs, the responsibility is on the dribbler.
The foul was called after the elbow, when he went up to shoot.They did review it and decided it was incidental contact and a foul on Karaban.
Yes, and there was also a review of the entire play, including when Karaban got hit in the forehead, and it was deemed a natural basketball play.The foul was called after the elbow, when he went up to shoot.