Stainmaster
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He played with Bouk and Springs in HS, solid player in limited minutes as a freshman last year and shot 40% from 3Stain, you know anything about this kid. Didn't watch Wake games. And I know, young whippersnapper, that I could google but this is the yard!
I think it all depends how you define "power forward", whether it's in the older example or in the modern stretch 4. I would take Sanogo and Mac for the long term benefit but feel like a big man is the least of our needs next yearI thought we wanted a power forward. This kid’s game is nothing like Sanogo or Mac. Need big help, not another wing.
sanogo and mac qualify as best available but if hurley wants an akok replacement then he's looking at stretch PFsI thought we wanted a power forward. This kid’s game is nothing like Sanogo or Mac. Need big help, not another wing.
I think it all depends how you define "power forward", whether it's in the older example or in the modern stretch 4. I would take Sanogo and Mac for the long term benefit but feel like a big man is the least of our needs next year
sanogo and mac qualify as best available but if hurley wants an akok replacement then he's looking at stretch PFs
Just to play devil's advocate: One center stinks, one is way undersized, two have never played a college game, and one of those two is an eighteen year old that has never played against good competition.You take those guys because of their long term value for sure. But there’s already 4 centers on the roster for 20-21.
I've argued ball handler (El Amin) over stretch 4 but that's really just a preference and admittedly a toss-up. I'm excluding Mac and Sanogo from my analysis because those are long term plays and with a strong roster I have no issue using a 13th scholarship to get a great player a year early.I’m not sure there’s much of a debate that stretch 4 is the biggest need for the 20-21 roster.
Third ball handler is a hole, but a tough spot to fill with this open spot.
Shooter anywhere could be helpful.
Whaley, Carlton, Brown Ferguson, SpringsWho are the 4 centers that we already have?
I'm sold on Whaley having turned himself into an undersized center and our starting center but when did Springs become a center?Whaley, Carlton, Brown Ferguson, Springs
He's the one I'm willing to at least commit to playing a 5-10 minutes at the 4, especially if Whaley is the 5 with him. But for me a 6'10 guy with limited range outside 10-15' is more C than PF to me. At least when so many Big East teams will run a 6'5 guard at the 4I'm sold on Whaley having turned himself into an undersized center and our starting center but when did Springs become a center?
I have to ask, if he were that good wouldn't he play more than 12mpg and well...score more than 5 points a game? I know Rome wasn't built in a day but does this kind of production for a mediocre team help us get better?
To paraphrase Brad Pitt in Moneyball, "if he's a scorer then why doesn't he score?"
Isaiah Whaley played 1 more MPG than Massoud freshman year. Should we have dismissed him as an impact player?I have to ask, if he were that good wouldn't he play more than 12mpg and well...score more than 5 points a game? I know Rome wasn't built in a day but does this kind of production for a mediocre team help us get better?
To paraphrase Brad Pitt in Moneyball, "if he's a scorer then why doesn't he score?"
He didn't look like a center the couple of times I saw him play but maybe that's changed. Who would be our power forwards if we have 4 centers?He's the one I'm willing to at least commit to playing a 5-10 minutes at the 4, especially if Whaley is the 5 with him. But for me a 6'10 guy with limited range outside 10-15' is more C than PF to me. At least when so many Big East teams will run a 6'5 guard at the 4
If I'm wrong and Springs is Akok where defenses respect him from 3 I take back everything I've said but I thought he was more mid-range than stretch 4
therein lies the problem with the roster if akok isnt back for conference play. without a true PF it would have to be a combination of polley, martin, springs, and whaley. maybe AJ too but Hurley says he's gonna be a PG in the nba.Who would be our power forwards if we have 4 centers?
For me personally I'd split it somewhere like Martin (15), Polley (10), Jackson (5), Springs (5), Whaley (5). Maybe Springs 10 and take 5 from Polley or Martin if we're facing a particularly big teamHe didn't look like a center the couple of times I saw him play but maybe that's changed. Who would be our power forwards if we have 4 centers?
Yep. Andre isn't a power forward, that would be wasting his talents. We just don't know on Akok, Polley, and Martin.therein lies the problem with the roster if akok isnt back for conference play. without a true PF it would have to be a combination of polley, martin, springs, and whaley, maybe AJ too but Hurley says he's gonna be a PG in the nba.