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[Hurleyman216]

Pretty wild that we have our whole starting 5 in the top 30 player ratings in the country. Also, is there a guy in the country more overrated than Braden Smith at Purdue? The guy is averaging 12 pts/game and his coach is complaining that he wasn't a finalist for the Cousy award. I'm pretty confident that Castle would lock him down completely. He's less athletic than Cam Spencer and about half as good in my opinion.

 

[Tyler2Rings]

Also, is there a guy in the country more overrated than Braden Smith at Purdue

Goodman said he would take him over T-New which is all I needed to hear to know he's overrated

 

[NJHusky]

And we have 5/9 in the BE

 

[caw]

Pretty wild that we have our whole starting 5 in the top 30 player ratings in the country. Also, is there a guy in the country more overrated than Braden Smith at Purdue? The guy is averaging 12 pts/game and his coach is complaining that he wasn't a finalist for the Cousy award. I'm pretty confident that Castle would lock him down completely. He's less athletic than Cam Spencer and about half as good in my opinion.

I don’t know if he’s less athletic than Cam but he’s a very good PG. Arguably top ten depending on who you list as a PG.

Goodman said he would take him over T-New which is all I needed to hear to know he's overrated

They never liked Newton. Hell they went all last year saying UConn didn’t have a PG.

 

[87Xfer]

Wild that Maya's top 5 man lineup for UConn has Ball, not Castle

 

[housekeys]

They never liked Newton. Hell they went all last year saying UConn didn’t have a PG.

Goodman said he would take him over T-New which is all I needed to hear to know he's overrated

Yea. Kinda sucks that we are "stuck" with Tristen Newton

 

[auror]

Is there a guy in the country more overrated than Braden Smith at Purdue? The guy is averaging 12 pts/game and his coach is complaining that he wasn't a finalist for the Cousy award. I'm pretty confident that Castle would lock him down completely. He's less athletic than Cam Spencer and about half as good in my opinion.

He's had the most assist in the country, that seems pretty relevant to a an award about point guards

 

[Palatine]

They never liked Newton. Hell they went all last year saying UConn didn’t have a PG.

That's true of much of the Boneyard as well.

 

[husky429]

Pretty wild that we have our whole starting 5 in the top 30 player ratings in the country. Also, is there a guy in the country more overrated than Braden Smith at Purdue? The guy is averaging 12 pts/game and his coach is complaining that he wasn't a finalist for the Cousy award. I'm pretty confident that Castle would lock him down completely. He's less athletic than Cam Spencer and about half as good in my opinion.

I don't think he's overrated. Most people seem to get that he's a really, really good (but not elite) PG. I haven't heard many people putting him in AA conversations or anything.

 

[Blue Blood]

I think its fair to say that Smith is a good player who gets over rated based on metrics. I've watched maybe 8 Purdue games this year he does a good job managing the offense and seems to have a bit of the spencer gene of hitting big shots in crunch time, but his efficiency gets inflated when you have Edey. He gets off ball doubled so often that the passing lanes are wide open. Also assists numbers are pretty easy to get when you can throw it 11 feet in the air let Edey catch it turn and finish.

 

[NJHusky]

I think its fair to say that Smith is a good player who gets over rated based on metrics. I've watched maybe 8 Purdue games this year he does a good job managing the offense and seems to have a bit of the spencer gene of hitting big shots in crunch time, but his efficiency gets inflated when you have Edey. He gets off ball doubled so often that the passing lanes are wide open. Also assists numbers are pretty easy to get when you can throw it 11 feet in the air let Edey catch it turn and finish.

Good points...what would his numbers look like without Edey?

 

[Inyatkin]

I don’t know if he’s less athletic than Cam but he’s a very good PG. Arguably top ten depending on who you list as a PG.



They never liked Newton. Hell they went all last year saying UConn didn’t have a PG.

The most-liked poster in Boneyard history went all last year saying exactly that

 

[bendm]

I really want to destroy purdue in the national championship.

 

[husky429]

I really want to destroy purdue in the national championship.

We're more likely to see Western Arkansas State Technical Community College for Witchcraft and Wizardry past the first weekend.

 

[61cygni]

Interesting to note how much Newton/Spencer/Karaban all skew toward higher OBPR and lower DBPR in his player rankings. Four of the Top 11 in OBPR.

 

[ToolzieFan]

Wild that Maya's top 5 man lineup for UConn has Ball, not Castle

If you lower the minimum number of possessions, our starting 5 is our best lineup.

 

[Huskyforlife]

How could anyone think Braden Smith is overrated? He’s the second best player on Purdue, and everyone is always talking down on him.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

How could anyone think Braden Smith is overrated? He’s the second best player on Purdue, and everyone is always talking down on him.

He’s very good. Taken a huge leap this year. Fine to be low on the others of the supporting cast, but Smith has been borderline great.

 

[BigTenFan]

Braden Smith is a top point guard....and he is only a sophomore. He is shooting almost 40 percent from 3 and has limited turnovers from last year.

 

[Hurleyman216]

He’s very good. Taken a huge leap this year. Fine to be low on the others of the supporting cast, but Smith has been borderline great.

As another poster mentioned, his assist numbers are very good, but look at every Purdue highlight reel and you’ll realize half his assists come from throwing the ball within a 5 foot radius of Edey and watching him dunk over a guy 8” shorter than him. Sorry but there are about 30 other point guards I’d take on my team before Smith and Newton is one of them.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

As another poster mentioned, his assist numbers are very good, but look at every Purdue highlight reel and you’ll realize half his assists come from throwing the ball within a 5 foot radius of Edey and watching him dunk over a guy 8” shorter than him. Sorry but there are about 30 other point guards I’d take on my team before Smith and Newton is one of them.

That’s just top tier hating at that point my man

 

[navery12]

That’s just top tier hating at that point my man

This board is completely irrational when it comes to anyone who doesn't play for UConn. On second thought, most people are pretty blind to how good UConn players are too

 

[Hurleyman216]

That’s just top tier hating at that point my man

Is it really? I’ve watched about 15 Purdue games this year. Literally half of their offense comes from lobbing it to the #1 offensive player in the country who isn’t capable of creating offense unless he gets the ball passed to him deep in the paint. I wonder how many of Smith’s assists are lobs to Edey. It’s gotta be like 30-40% of his assists coming from lobbing to their 7’6” monster.

He’s a decent pg, but let’s see if his numbers improve or drop next year when Edey is gone. You want to put up some $$ that says he’ll average the same or more assists next year as he does this year? I’ll hammer the under on that bet. If you watch Purdue you’ll also see that Edey gets double teamed and sometimes triple teamed most of the time he touches the ball. It leads to inflated shooting numbers for the guys around him. He’s a nice player, just has inflated stats because of Edey being on his team.

 

[JohnnyJr]

What do their lineups without Edey look like?