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That article has in my opinion the 2 sides of the B1G argument over who was a better choice. You have the fan/reality side (UCONN) and the Justification side (Rutgers). The more interesting thing is how these articles are popping up on a steady basis in B1G country newspapers..never mind from Tom Dinehart on the BTN. We need to fill the stadium each and every week this fall...and show our support as fans. On the fields and courts we just need to keep winning. IF we do that, we just build up our brand, and someone will snatch us up..getting the best school that was available!
Well then Tom Dienhart must be predicting the future for us....The BTN says nothing but what The Big10 wants them to say. The newspapers? Not so much.
The ACC is pretty much screwed unless ND says yes to full time membership...that will require a 16th team. The B1G can take their time until they find a partner to go with us to make 16. Like what happened with Rutgers and the B1G, sometimes it is the unknown or the one you never even think of considering that comes in and makes the obscene splash. Remember...conference networks need programming other than football.It's very simple for the B1G to let the sun break through the clouds. With all this press and the two NC it seems like momentum is on our side. With NYC clearly on the line for the ACC and the B1G the pressure and risk not to move grows along with a realization of UConn's commitment to athletics. In the right conference is there really still a doubt that our football will be successful.
I can't believe that both conferences are not worried that the other will make the first move. Once we are gone there are zero options left in strengthening their NYC and New England position.
It's just a matter of time before one of them moves to shut out the other. I hope it's the B1G.
I can't believe that both conferences are not worried that the other will make the first move. Once we are gone there are zero options left in strengthening their NYC and New England position.
It's just a matter of time before one of them moves to shut out the other. I hope it's the B1G.
NYC always has been and always will be a basketball town. College basketball is the one sport that can take the Knicks and now Nets and bury them into the back of the sports section. We own that hands down!That's a good article. It presented both sides, but it quoted that Nate Silver article which has been debunked time and time again.
When it comes to college football in NYC, it just doesn't matter. It will never be a CFB town. People who live in NYC, come from all over and they root for their "home" team.
If that's what the B1G wants their fans to hear, we're in good shape!Well then Tom Dienhart must be predicting the future for us....
Tom Dienhart @BTNTomDienhart Apr 5
Still surprised UConn got locked out of conference expansion. No ACC. No Big East. Great hoops; decent football w/nice facilities/market.
Tom Dienhart @BTNTomDienhart Apr 5
@dwbalsinger Well, @RandyEdsall won big as UConn coach, going to Fiesta Bowl. UConn has been and can be as good as most BCS league schools.
http://btn.com/2014/04/09/catch-up-on-these-big-ten-headlines/
Similar institutions? That would be the B1G. How do we culturally match up with the ACC? I used to prefer we go to the ACC and develop hockey in the HE but the dual championship seems to make that not matter.When it comes down to it, the Big argument is very similar to what you see politicians say when they screw up. They are realizing that adding Rutgers was a mistake, but they are stuck with the Rutties so what can they say except "we still support our pick," and"We are looking long term." To call Rutgers a dumpster fire is an insult to dumpster fires. There's an old Irish saying, Too cute by half. That describes Jim Delany's Rutgers move. I will say, though, that saying Rutgers was a disaster isn't the same as saying they should have picked UConn. I still believe that the ACC is the most logical and appropriate home for the Huskies. Similar institutions, traditional rivals as well as some not exactly traditional one but rivals none the less. If you don't think Duke and North Carolina care what UConn basketball does, you haven't met a Duke or UNC fan.
That's a good article. It presented both sides, but it quoted that Nate Silver article which has been debunked time and time again.
When it comes to college football in NYC, it just doesn't matter. It will never be a CFB town. People who live in NYC, come from all over and they root for their "home" team.
The population density here gives us the same advantage Rutgers has in conference realignment. Except we actually win. The P5 want to penetrate the Bos-Wash megalopolis more. It is ridiculously underrepresented in the P5 world. That's why Temple sees hope.I think it's also a problem that there has never been a team to rally around. The predominant schools in the Greater NYC area either don't play, or just started playing big time college football in past couple of decades.
NYU - No football team
St. Johns - No Football
SUNY Stony Brook (On Long Island and Manhattan) - FCS Football
Cornell - FCS
Rutgers - Periodic success mixed with bad football. Only playing major football since the 1970's
UConn - Only playing D1 football for about 20 years
Syracuse - Too far away and haven't won enough
Suny Buffalo - LOL
More than rooting for their "home" teams, New Yorkers want a winner. If UConn or Rutgers were to win something (like UConn has in BB) New Yorkers will make them their team.
When it comes down to it, the Big argument is very similar to what you see politicians say when they screw up. They are realizing that adding Rutgers was a mistake, but they are stuck with the Rutties so what can they say except "we still support our pick," and"We are looking long term." To call Rutgers a dumpster fire is an insult to dumpster fires. There's an old Irish saying, Too cute by half. That describes Jim Delany's Rutgers move. I will say, though, that saying Rutgers was a disaster isn't the same as saying they should have picked UConn. I still believe that the ACC is the most logical and appropriate home for the Huskies. Similar institutions, traditional rivals as well as some not exactly traditional one but rivals none the less. If you don't think Duke and North Carolina care what UConn basketball does, you haven't met a Duke or UNC fan.
Rutgers was a D1AA school just like UCONN until 1979. We made the jump to 1A in the 1980 season.Where did the myth that Rutgers didn't play major football until the 70s come from?
Where did the myth that Rutgers didn't play major football until the 70s come from?
Directly from the WIKIThey were in "The Middle Three" conference with Lehigh and Lafayette until 1975 and regularly played the Ivy League schools through that period as well. When the division split happened in the mid '70's, they choose to start putting money into their athletics and went D1. They joined the Big East in 1991.
You left out Army, which has history but no recent success to speak of. They were in many ways New York's team through the 60s. the combination of the Viet Nam War and bad football pushed them off the stage. And with respect to Rutgers, they have historically played major college football, just not very well. Like a lot of people, you confuse their historic opponents with what they are today. divisions were much less stringent before 1975 or so. Until the mid-70s schools like the Patriot League members, and the Ivies were all considered "University division." Heck, Coast Guard played in the Tangerine Bowl in the 1960s. Rutgers and BC were sort of similar. They were more or less MAC-level football schools in the 1960s and early 70s. Also, I guess you have a different definition of periodic success than most of the world.I think it's also a problem that there has never been a team to rally around. The predominant schools in the Greater NYC area either don't play, or just started playing big time college football in past couple of decades.
NYU - No football team
St. Johns - No Football
SUNY Stony Brook (On Long Island and Manhattan) - FCS Football
Cornell - FCS
Rutgers - Periodic success mixed with bad football. Only playing major football since the 1970's
UConn - Only playing D1 football for about 20 years
Syracuse - Too far away and haven't won enough
Suny Buffalo - LOL
More than rooting for their "home" teams, New Yorkers want a winner. If UConn or Rutgers were to win something (like UConn has in BB) New Yorkers will make them their team.