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Conspiracy Kitty says:
1) New B1G contract effective 1/2017 so need to have teams in place 12/2016.
2) UConn has a 27 month exit clause.
3) 27 months prior to 12/2016 is 9/2014.
4) Sixty days from May 6th is July 4th, 2014. Are those dates close enough for you? Thus..
5) July 4th is UConn's Independence Day.

QED
 
'Now here is where I speculate a bit. My guess is FOX goes in full force and takes the upcoming BIG rights all to themselves, spends a mint to establish FoxSports 1 and 2, just like they did when they started FOX and took The NFL package from CBS for a pretty penny. The result a fourth network that competes with the 3 untouchables. This would be the same strategy against the untouchable ESPN. Murdolch is on record, he’s going to be losing big on FOX Sports at first to compete. UConn and its NY and New England location is much more valuable to the BIG with FOX’s needs then it is to ESPN’s needs if The Big stayed with ESPN. Inversely though if ESPN loses the BIG contract, Uconn just became a lot more valuable to ESPN. Owning UConn for next to nothing is great for ESPN but not owning UCONN at all is a problem. A problem with the fight for NYC and for the consequences to their beloved ACC.

That is similar to He1nousOne's post on the CSNBBs board where he said that ESPN was pushing UConn to the Big Ten because they would not cut a deal with the ACC to add Uconn.

It isn't necessarily true but it isn't necessarily not true. The Tournament is over and thus business picked back up. UConn's championship got them a few extra looks. A certain Network is pushing them HARD towards the Big Ten because their toy conference seems to think taking UConn is equivalent to ESPN having to put forward a conference network for them.
Whether it happens or not? To be honest, I am hearing so many varying stories right now that there are a lot of self interests being served at this point. It does tell me though that we are nearing the point of something big actually happening.
August is still the target for implementation.
 
That is similar to He1nousOne's post on the CSNBBs board where he said that ESPN was pushing UConn to the Big Ten because they would not cut a deal with the ACC to add Uconn.

H1 believes (my interpretation of his interpretation) that the ACC hopes that by getting UConn they would gain political clout with the World Wide Leader, and thus, a network.
 
I'll put it more bluntly than that: He saw Michigan State, one of the best teams in his conference, with one of its strongest and largest fan bases, come to NYC, the city they so desperately want to plant their flag in. He saw Michigan State and Spartan green get swallowed in a cascade of blue. He saw UConn play a home game in "B1G country." He saw first hand that NYC turns blue at the snap of a finger, and just how forceful our presence there actually is.


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Conspiracy Kitty says:
1) New B1G contract effective 1/2017 so need to have teams in place 12/2016.
2) UConn has a 27 month exit clause.
3) 27 months prior to 12/2016 is 9/2014.
4) Sixty days from May 6th is July 4th, 2014. Are those dates close enough for you? Thus..
5) July 4th is UConn's Independence Day.

QED
You had me at Hello.
Actually, I love the math on #'s 1, 2 & 3. I like the symbolism of #5. Was #4 just a math play to get to #5? Did Conspiracy Kitty pull a number out of thin air? That darn cat!
 
But, he was at the NCAA regional final at MSG and it was pretty clear that while UConn and Michigan St are not historical rivals, both sides showed-up in force with very large wallets and very large lungs.

I expected a nice visual to follow of a B1G cheerleader with nice, uh, lungs. Yeah, nice lungs.
 
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What if we are already in the B1G but its being kept quiet so we can accept an ACC invite and feed back info as a double agent?
 
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Conspiracy Kitty says:
1) New B1G contract effective 1/2017 so need to have teams in place 12/2016.
2) UConn has a 27 month exit clause.
3) 27 months prior to 12/2016 is 9/2014.
4) Sixty days from May 6th is July 4th, 2014. Are those dates close enough for you? Thus..
5) July 4th is UConn's Independence Day.

QED
So, are we doomed, or not doomed?
 
So which schools are the most likely or logical targets of going to the Big 10? Would they raid the ACC before adding us? It seems like BCU or Syracuse would be a ridiculous choice for them. I'm just trying to figure out in my brain what schools we'd be competing against for a possible expansion of 2 schools.
 
I'm relatively new to the board, although I've been following conversations here related to conference realignment for a while. Is anyone concerned about Navy potentially sliding in ahead of UConn for a spot? I feel like the ACC may have an eye on them, but haven't heard anything recently or in conjunction with the B1G?
Some have opined the ACC could work a Navy football/Georgetown all other sports as #16. If if hurts UConn, it's a possibility.
 
So, are we doomed, or not doomed?

We are going to land somewhere outside of the AAC it just a matter if they go P5 or consolidate to 4 though we are not a lock if we go to a power 4.

I hear that schools are going to be leaving if they move to 4 conferences and that is just pure lies spread by those who are bent on those on the outside finding a home in a P5. The money is going to be so big that the Wake Forests, Dukes, Northwesterns, Iowa St., will easily afford covering the costs of these students expenses and more. They can upgrade at will and will never ever leave. So if there is just a slight move in realignment we will fall into one of the 5 conferences. Who cares where as long as we make it in. Conferences and teams are not saintly as we have seen and none will bow out in the name of academics.


But lets say that they do force out a Kansas St., Wake Forest, Duke, Baylor, Iowa St., BC (shudder), Syracuse (wretch), Texas Tech, Washington St., Oregon St., with a Cincy and Memphis (mercy reasons only) etc… we make an alignment with them and viola we are in an instantly better league both athletically and/or academically.

No need to panic any time soon. We just have to wait for those in charge of the other leagues to make up their mind finally about what they want to look like or for Emmert to screw them over again one last time.
 
I'll put it more bluntly than that: He saw Michigan State, one of the best teams in his conference, with one of its strongest and largest fan bases, come to NYC, the city they so desperately want to plant their flag in. He saw Michigan State and Spartan green get swallowed in a cascade of blue. He saw UConn play a home game in "B1G country." He saw first hand that NYC turns blue at the snap of a finger, and just how forceful our presence there actually is.

To be fair, there are a lot of UConn alumni in NYC and its suburbs, myself included; but the rest of NYC only turns blue when that team WINS. No one within roughly 500 miles (UNC and Duke are about 500 miles away by car) of Times Square has more NCAA men’s titles than UConn. Thus, the Huskies get a lot of love in the Big Apple. That is what the B1G saw.
 
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If my theory is correct, Athletics suffers (is potentially doomed) because it can't get a direct payout from the B1G. Secret B1G payments would be funneled to puppetry (not doomed).
 
Just curious, was Delaney at the Michigan State-UConn game at MSG?
 
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Just to clarify and to be honest, why there is a lot of UConn blue in NYC and its suburbs, myself included, the rest of NYC turns the color of the team that WINS. No one within say 500 miles (UNC and Duke are about 500 miles away by car) of Times Square has more NCAA men’s title than UConn. Thus, the Huskies get a lot of love in the Big Apple. That is what the B1G saw.
Well we do have the distance advantage, same as if it the game were held in Boston, Philadelphia, Baltimore, or even DC. Boston is an hour and a half from UConn's campus. If you talk about the most southwestern tip of Connecticut, it's all of a dozen miles or so as the crow flies from Greenwich to the NYC limit where the Bronx meets Westchester. Philly is a few hours from Connecticut, and Baltimore is about 4 or 5 and DC 5 or 6, depending on where you leave from. If the B1G needs contiguity of states, well Connecticut doesn't technically touch New Jersey, but it's a very short distance, maybe 30 miles. UConn not only wins titles, but it's smack dab in the middle of the Bos-Wash megalopolis and all of its media wonderment. And the World Leader of Sports is in our backyard which has never hurt. UConn has so many advantages just because of its location that a conference would be silly to not seriously consider adding them. Not to mention if the B1G is serious about the academic stature of their members, they'll drop the AAU requirement because let's be real, UConn is a better academic institution than half of what's already in the B1G and probably one of the best schools that's not in a P5 conference already. Plus UConn's athletic department is one of the best when you look at it in totality. Oh yeah the B1G just finally put together a real hockey conference, so UConn would be able to contribute to that sport where less than half of the B1G's members participate (only Wisconsin, Penn State, Ohio State, Minnesota, Michigan, and Michigan State participate in B1G hockey - not sure if Maryland or Rutgers will add to that). UConn's a no-brainer. Luckily the P5 conferences are running out of viable candidates especially in the east, so we're bound to get picked up by someone, even if it is the ACC begrudgingly they value money over any past history.
 
even if it is the ACC begrudgingly they value money over any past history.
BC and Cuse say hi. We're better than Pitt in every fathomable way and we were wanted, yet Pitt was taken.
 
BC and Cuse say hi. We're better than Pitt in every fathomable way and we were wanted, yet Pitt was taken.
That's what I was referring to when I said begrudgingly while mentioning past history. Eventually those teams will have to swallow their pride or enjoy welcoming South Central Louisiana State University or Fleener State as their next team. There just aren't many, or any, viable candidates left east of the Mississippi. No one's leaving the B1G or SEC for the ACC. Like I said, the B1G is the best choice because then they effectively control the most densely populated wealthiest part of the country and the media markets that go with it. It helps a conference TV network get ad money when you lock down media markets with millions of TVs that aren't being watched by people in trailers using rabbit ears.
 
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Why do we torture ourselves this way? The invite will come or not come. I don't think we will be on the sidelines when this game of musical chairs ends. But where we get a seat? I don't know or even care anymore.
 
That does in fact make CT contiguous with B1G property.
And of all requisites, that "contiguous" aspect has no real relevance, especially in the Northeast where states are smaller. And AAU? That's more form over function. UCONN does fine academically on its merit.
 
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