AAC vs Big East attendance

Discussion in 'Conference Realignment Board' started by dmac80, Aug 29, 2013.

  1. fleudslipcon

    fleudslipcon Popular Poster

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    The market took into consideration that Cincinnati and UConn only had two toes in the AAC. The interesting thing is that from a basketball standpoint the AAC may actually be a very good conference in a few years. It will be interesting to see how quickly it is perceived to be equal to or better than the BE. The loss of Stevens could be a big hit for the BE. Of course the AAC is still in a situation where universities may leave. The BE does have stability for now.

    I like the new rendition of the BE and wish it well.
  2. dmac80

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    Fair enough. We'll find out the details when the BE releases schedule next week. I find it delusional how anyone could be excited about the AAC and where UCONN stands (perception and reality of conference strength, attendance, popularity, TV rights, etc) going forward if they aren't invited somewhere else, but I get it, this is a UCONN message board.
  3. fleudslipcon

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    Funny how you could be excited about getting Chukwa and the UConn message board is delusional to see Mudiay going to SMU! I was looking for a fourth team to emerge in the AAC conference when Ville leaves. It looks like UConn, Cincinnati, Memphis and SMU will be better than the top of the BE in the future. Of course we'll see how this plays out in the arena.
  4. upstater

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    I'd much rather be where UConn stands because of what's coming down the road. Right now, exposure is great.

    We'll also see by November probably which conference is pulling in the better players. My money is on the AAC.
  5. dmac80

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    As of now, on 247 sports the Big East has 6 teams ranked in the top 50 (5 in top 25) for 2014 recruiting classes:

    #4 Georgetown
    #10 Providence
    #13 Villanova
    #14 Marquette
    #21 Xavier
    #31 Seton Hall

    Of course we'll have to see how the teams and leagues do over the next few years + exposure, to see how this plays out long term, but so far recruiting is very strong in the Big East.
  6. BoatShow

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    I like how the guy who made the chart put question marks as if it was UTTERLY IMPOSSIBLE to figure out UConn's % of attendance.

    2013: 7 Gampel Games (71169)+ 9 XL Games (146646)=217815 possible seats; 181255 seats sold= 83%
    2012: (71169)+(146646)= 217815; 187118/217815= 86%
    2011: 61002+162940= 223942; 186478/223942= 83%
    2010: 81336+162940=244276; 216453/244276= 89%
    2009: 71169+146646= 217815; 200284/217815= 92%

    Five year average 87%
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  7. upstater

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    This sort of thing is meaningless. Let's look at the top 100 when the sigs are on the dotted line.

    I've never been a fan of crediting schools with 6 scholarships to give out simply because they have more than anyone else.

    UConn for instance will jump in rank simply because of they are giving out. Meaningless.

    Let's see who grabs the best players.
  8. dmac80

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    You can quibble with the formula, the point is the BE is landing lots of top 100 4 star + recruits still so so far so good.
  9. upstater

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    I'm not quibbling. I'm telling you it's out and out ludicrous.

    Have you not noticed that most of the top 100 hasn't verballed?

    I'm also telling you that without a doubt UConn will end up ranked much higher than it deserves by the sheer strength of number of scholarships. It's stupid.
  10. dmac80

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    1) you ignored the main point again, that the reconfigured BE thus far is recruiting very strong.

    2) it isn't that ridiculous as long as you know that it depends on number of scholarships. Obviously a program with 1 or no scholarships won't be at the top. But a class with 3 4 stars and a 3 star simply IS stronger than a a class with 1 4star, regardless of the reason why...
  11. upstater

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    1. It's August. The vast majority of the top 100 hasn't verballed. This is like putting up a banner for making a tournament. oh wait!!!!!

    2. I'd much rather be the team with 1 5 star than the team with a 4 star and multiple 3 stars. Because the following season, it's much more likely that the coach able to land a 5 star is going to land 1 more 5 star and 2 four stars. That's the way it works.

    All I know is that UConn sends more kids to the NBA than practically anyone and the recruiting rankings don't correlate to that fact.

    ESPECIALLY IN AUGUST.

    Here's something else for you to consider: Okafor, Kemba Walker, Drummond, Thabeet, Villanueva, etc. All these kids were very late verbals for UConn. Spring-time for a few of them. The best players verbal late.

    You think Kansas with Wiggins was concerned about last August's recruiting rankings?
  12. BoatShow

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    We gotta get stronger screening for these out of towners, man.
  13. dmac80

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    Again your missing or ignoring my point. As of today the big east is recruiting very well. While there are many recruits left to verbal, it doesn't change the fact that as of now, among those who have, many are going to BE. Not sure what the NBA has to do with this discussion.
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    As of today, DePaul is in first place in the BE.
  15. dmac80

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    Your analogy implies that no one has verbaled when in fact many have verbaled. Fail.
  16. upstater

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    My God. Stop.
  17. dmac80

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    Looks like I was pretty spot on, the Big East will dominate coverage on Fox Sports 1, along with select games on the regular Fox national channel, and a few sub-leased out in an agreement with CBS Sports. PC for example has all but 3 of its conf games on Fox Sports 1, which is in 90 million homes and widely available in HD. 1 of their other games is on the regional Fox channel, and 2 on CBS SN. There will also be non conf games aired on national TV but the school hasn't released the full schedule yet with TV info. If you're a recruit looking for television exposure, the Big East has it.





    BIG EAST ANNOUNCES 2013-14 MEN'S BASKETBALL
    CONFERENCE SCHEDULE

    FOX Sports 1 to Air More Than 100 Games Nationally, Highlighted by New Year's Eve Marathon, "Super Saturday" Doubleheader and Wall-to-Wall BIG EAST Tournament Action from Madison Square Garden

    New York - September 5, 2013 -The BIG EAST will ring in the new year - and a new era of college hoops - with a five-game telecast marathon stretching from Noon to Midnight on December 31. The New Year's Eve games, which will be televised consecutively by the conference's media partner FOX Sports 1, will tip off the BIG EAST's 2013-14 men's basketball conference schedule, which was released today.

    As part of the BIG EAST's landmark partnership with FOX Sports, every BIG EAST conference game will be televised on national and regional networks, with the majority to air on FOX Sports 1, which began broadcasting to approximately 90 million homes across the country on August 17.

    Led by the legendary announcing team of Gus Johnson and Bill Raftery, who has been calling BIG EAST basketball for more than thirty years, FOX Sports 1 will nationally televise more than 100 games involving BIG EAST teams this coming season, beginning with non-conference play on Friday, November 8 and extending through the entire 2014 BIG EAST tournament at Madison Square Garden from March 12-15.

    "From the BIG EAST's version of the Times Square New Year's Eve Ball drop through the fireworks of the annual BIG EAST tournament in the world's most famous arena, the 2013-14 conference schedule will be a months-long celebration of the BIG EAST's return to its basketball roots," said BIG EAST Commissioner Val Ackerman. "We have 10 outstanding teams with rich traditions of basketball excellence, and our comprehensive partnership with FOX Sports will ensure that our fans across the country can enjoy every moment of BIG EAST action."

    Tuesday night will be a BIG EAST TUESDAY SHOWDOWN on FOX Sports 1, as the network showcases at least one BIG EAST game each Tuesday during the season. The Tuesday schedule concludes with a March 4 doubleheader featuring Creighton at Georgetown and Marquette at Providence.

    Additional highlights of the 2013-14 schedule include:

    Each team will play an 18-game schedule, marking the first time since 1994-1995 that the league will feature a full double round-robin format.

    A New Year's Eve marathon will feature all 10 teams, including the first BIG EAST home games for the conference's newest members: Butler, Creighton and Xavier. The marathon will tip off with St. John's at Xavier at noon ET, followed by Seton Hall at Providence at 2:30, DePaul at Georgetown at 5:00, Villanova at Butler at 7:30 and Marquette at Creighton at 10:00.

    FOX Sports 1 will air A SUPER SATURDAY HOOPS doubleheader, featuring Marquette vs. St. John's and Michigan State vs. Georgetown, live from Madison Square Garden, on February 1, the eve of Super Bowl XLVIII in the New York/New Jersey region.

    The quest for the 2013-14 BIG EAST regular season crown will conclude with four games on Saturday, March 8 - Georgetown at Villanova, Providence at Creighton, St. John's at Marquette and Seton Hall at Butler.

    The BIG EAST Championship, one of the elite events in all of college sports, is college basketball's longest running conference tournament at the same venue. The 10-team tourney will begin with a first-round doubleheader on Wednesday, March 12. Two quarterfinal doubleheaders will be played Thursday afternoon and evening, March 13, followed by a semifinal doubleheader Friday, March 14 and the championship game Saturday, March 15.

    In addition to the Tuesday night showcase on FOX Sports 1, fans will be able to enjoy BIG EAST basketball on virtually every day of the conference season in January and February, including multiple games each Saturday. Other than December 31, all 10 teams will play on the same day only once, Saturday, Jan. 25.

    FOX Sports 1 will air 108 regular-season games, and an additional 9 tournament games. FOX Sports 2 will air 12 games. (To find the channel location for FOX Sports 1 and FOX Sports 2 on local distributors, use the channel locator at http://msn.foxsports.com/.)
    CBS Sports Network will air 18 games, and 2 additional games will air on CBS Sports.
    FOX Sports Network will air up to 18 games regionally. FOX Sports (FBC) will televise one game featuring BIG EAST teams.


    Last year, five of the 10 BIG EAST schools - Butler, Creighton, Georgetown, Marquette and Villanova - played in the NCAA Championship, with Marquette advancing to the Elite Eight. Along the way, Marquette edged Butler 74-72 in a third-round game. Providence and St. John's played in the NIT.

    http://www.providencejournal.com/sp...5-big-east-announces-full-league-schedule.ece
  18. upstater

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    Good for you guys. 14 games on FS1 is great.
    Better than NC State's 4 on ESPN/CBS.
    I don't see much on your OOC schedule other than Kentucky that would be of interest. The problem of course is that the Kentucky game is on a Sunday night opposite NFL on NBC in December. Ouch. That could have been a national game. Can't imagine who would host it.
    What other OOC games could be on the big stations?
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    Each team will play an 18-game schedule, marking the first time since 1994-1995 that the league will feature a full double round-robin format.

    What league?... this is a new league... that league is now the AAC
  20. zls44

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    The AAC has more exposure. Fact.
  21. BoatShow

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    Is dmac a PC fan? I hope he realizes regardless of what channel it's on no one is watching PC v. Seton Hall. Teams like GTown, Butler, Xavier, Marquette are getting the eyeballs.
  22. upstater

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    I bet ya PC does better than Butler.
    Butler is about to enter DePaul territory.
  23. dmac80

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    Yes PC fan and yes I know we've been a joke for a decade. Ed Cooley is changing that...I know already that PC is playing BC OOC on FS1 in the first ever FS1 college bb airing. Also obviously Kentucky game will be on national, not sure of others yet, but Cooley seems to know because he told recruits 24 televised games this season.
  24. upstater

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    Televised means squat. You could be on Wayne's world. Fox Regionals are like being buried. They don't even have the reach of ESPNU which is also like being buried. We went over the numbers last week. There's 4 channels with at least 90 million reach (CBS, ESPN, ESPN2 and FS1) and then a bunch of others sub 50m but closer to 30m if not lower. Meaningless. Hell, SNY has more than that.
  25. dmac80

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    He said 24 national TV..technically fox network is national as all regionals will cover but it is buriedand probably has limited reach....Thankfully it's only 2 games that we know so far. I'm thrilled with what were getting, way better than in the old league .
  26. upstater

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    CBSSN is national, SNY is national, a lot of channels with very low visibility are national. If cable companies in California and Massachusetts offer the same channel, it's national, even if its reach is 10 people. Notice I am not bragging about UConn being on CBSSN and ESPNU. Those games will basically be seen by no one. Everyone expects that. This is why the networks shell out $15k per game for those games.
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    Cooley also thought he could cut his own hair with a band sander and no mirror.
  28. dmac80

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    looks like 4 more OOC games on Fox Sports 1: (BC, Vermont, Fairfield, Yale), 1 more on FS2: (Brown), URI on CBS SN, Maine on Fox sports net, Umass on ESPNU, and Kentucky, Vandy, and the Paradise Jam tourney games TBA, likely national TV. So 18 on FS1, and at least 2 more likely on national TV and the rest on channels I can at least watch on my TV rather than stream. Love it.
  29. BoatShow

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    Just one decade?
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    Paradise Jam on National TV. UConn played in this tournament last year. Just wait to see what kind of TV you get.

    You never replied to my post abotu SNY being national TV. Everything is national TV these days. But how many homes are you beamed into?
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