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UConn to the MAC?
That was plan B. plan A was building up the BE w/ the additions of UMass, Temple, and upgrading Nova.Nelson has already proposed that...
What's next...
UConn to the MAC?
That was plan B. plan A was building up the BE w/ the additions of UMass, Temple, and upgrading Nova.Nelson has already proposed that...
You know we're not laughing with you right?
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Because the SEC believes that no school outside of those areas of the US where people do not talk northern (TX talks funny too so they are included in the south) can not possibly play football at the elite level they require. Further, they already have 1 school that believes in academics and they do not need to add any school that would further distance themselves from their god blessed mission of playing the highest level football. And for the round bouncy ball stuff, they have KY and TN women's BB for goodness sake. They do not need any other teams in that sport.Exactly
I know #BegHarder has been focused exclusively on the ACC to date, but we may need to revisit the playbook. If Herbst has these great SEC contacts, and is in #BegHarder mode, make a pitch to the SEC for Rutgers and UConn as teams 15 and 16. Why?
1) The ACC and Big 10 think they already have the tri-state area/New England. They really don't want to pay for it again by adding UConn and Rutgers.
2) The SEC is watching the Big 10 and ACC carve up the Big East market and not even have to pay for it.
3) The SEC has plenty of great programs. If quality was the driving factor, they would have taken WVU over Texas A&M or Missouri.
4) The one quality hole they have is basketball, where only Kentucky and to a lesser extent Florida have any national profile.
5) the SEC said they won't take a team from a state where another SEC team is, so this rules out FSU, Clemson, GTech and Louisville and USF for that matter. The have already passed on WVU about 5 times. The list of available teams to get to 16 is the North Carolina and Virginia schools.
6) VTech and NC State are going to be tough teams to pry away from the ACC, and they don't even really deliver those markets. UVa is terrible at everything and isn't really trying. UNC is not leaving a conference with GTech, Duke, Wake Forest, VTech, Virginia, Maryland, BCU, Pitt and Syracuse to join the SEC as long as the ACC is a viable conference.
7) The SEC has said they want new markets, so Texas than Missouri. Now what? Oklahoma? There really isn't anywhere West left to look. North Carolina and Virginia are attractive, but they are going to be tough to pry a team out of, and they are going to be competitive markets even if the SEC grabs NC State and VTech or whoever. And then there is the Big Apple. The largest market in the country, for a conference that considers itself a national brand.
If the SEC does nothing, they cede the market to the ACC and Big 10 for free, which increases the value of every program in those two leagues relative to the SEC. At the very least, the SEC would want to smoke out the interest of either league and force their hand to at least make them pay for it. UConn/Rutgers would deliver that market, particularly if they were playing LSU/Georgia/Florida/Alabama/Tennessee/Auburn. UConn/Rutgers has markets, which the SEC is lacking.
Can we all remember that while geography doesn't matter for a football only league, it very much matters for an all-sports league. The travel costs and time on olympic sports would be prohibitive.
We are southern New England and parts of Jersey are south of the mason dixon so I guess us and Rutgers would fit in great.
We are southern New England and parts of Jersey are south of the mason dixon so I guess us and Rutgers would fit in great.
I'm not saying that, Nelson. I'm saying that I think we offer them the most value. All options should remain on the table for the time being.So the consensus is we should just #BegHarder focusing solely on the ACC.
No, the consensus of those in touch with reality is that "we" are merely idiots on a message board and do not have any effect on what is actually happening in the real world; nor do we know what is actually being done by those whose job it is to handle this.So the consensus is we should just #BegHarder focusing solely on the ACC.
I know there is a large portion of the posters on this board that think UConn belongs in CUSA. You are one of them.
No, the consensus of those in touch with reality is that "we" are merely idiots on a message board and do not have any effect on what is actually happening in the real world; nor do we know what is actually being done by those whose job it is to handle this.
But it is nice that idle conjecture has gotten you so much mileage and preoccupied so much of your time. Who knows what kind of harm you might be doing yourself or others if you didn't have this to obsess and speculate wildly about?
Wow, Now you're thinking for me? Is there anything you can't do Mr. Nelson?
Either you've reached an all time low on comebacks or you're getting lazy.
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I'm trying to understand this. nelson, you are not against #BegHarder, you are against begging if it fails. All your ranting against President Herbst wasn't about her begging to get into the ACC, it was her inability to beg adequately.
So, regarding President Herbst, you believe she can be more effective begging the SEC and getting UConn into that conference.
Am I understanding you correctly?
I think Smithers just has it in for the ACC. If I were going pie-in-the-sky I'd go Big Ten. We might actually have a shot at that, in 10-20 years.
No, I didn't criticize you for posting on a message board. I criticized you for living on a message board; and lacking the self-awareness to realize that we are all just idiots with keyboards who neither have any effect on the process nor know everything that is being done by those whose job it is to handle this.It is ironic that you post on a message board to criticize me for posting on a message board.