The Next Shocks

[Patman]

The Ohtani story was sweeped away after a week. He didn't even answer any questions.

Sure now it looks like it was just his interpreter but you had the face of major league baseball tangentially related to a huge gambling scandal and no one covered it after a couple days.

Yes because his interpreter just shuffles 18 million

 

[nelsonmuntz]

The Ohtani story was sweeped away after a week. He didn't even answer any questions.

Sure now it looks like it was just his interpreter but you had the face of major league baseball tangentially related to a huge gambling scandal and no one covered it after a couple days.

Jontay Porter says "hello".

 

[JMick]

Jontay Porter says "hello".

Now let's see how long it's in the media cycle. I bet it's barely mentioned by the end of the month

 

[CL82]

Yeah, time and place. BC in 2004 thought they were riding higher and higher as the rightful kings of Boston. I knew even then, UConn and BC in football would help each other and help out New England football in general... but BC thought they were peerless and UConn was a Z-class upstart sniffing at their throne. Reality is both hate each other, and in attitude I always felt the two were a lot more similar than either would admit.

Disagree. They didn't act out of distain they acted out of fear. we had passed them in basketball to the point that games weren't even competitive anymore. They didn't want that to happen in football as well.

 

[NH Husky]

Disagree. They didn't act out of distain they acted out of fear. we had passed them in basketball to the point that games weren't even competitive anymore. They didn't want that to happen in football as well.

This 1000%. Simply, they were scared of UConn. Probably still are.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Now let's see how long it's in the media cycle. I bet it's barely mentioned by the end of the month

It is going to be in Jontay Porter's media cycle for a long time.

 

[JMick]

It is going to be in Jontay Porter's media cycle for a long time.

Your argument was that a betting scandal was going to blow sports wide open. It's the end of the day and already no one cares.

 

[Ha Who]

Your argument was that a betting scandal was going to blow sports wide open. It's the end of the day and already no one cares.

Was on nightly news this evening

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Your argument was that a betting scandal was going to blow sports wide open. It's the end of the day and already no one cares.

I never made that argument. You did make the argument that no one will care if all games are fixed.

 

[NE Football]

The gambling scandal is coming and it will be devastating

 

[JMick]

I never made that argument. You did make the argument that no one will care if all games are fixed.

Yes you did lol and no I didn't. Sometimes I don't understand how you can say things like this

 

[shizzle787]

I tend to agree with this, but I also think the state schools are carrying massive overhead that could be eliminated through consolidation.

The tsunami approaching higher education is really hard to predict. This is an industry that had very little change in 100 years until about 2010, but the seas are pretty rough now. Do you know anyone that wants to become an English Professor?

See CCSU and Charter Oak….

 

[shizzle787]

Expensive private schools that offer educations no better than one could get at a state school are the most vulnerable.

Looking at you, Syracuse. I bet we will live to see your dome turned into some kind of giant food court/casino/low-end retail complex with great air conditioning.

Syracuse will be fine. Most top 100 schools will be fine. I would not want to be a private school in the bottom third of Division 1 or in any of the other divisions unless you are prestigious.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Syracuse will be fine. Most top 100 schools will be fine. I would not want to be a private school in the bottom third of Division 1 or in any of the other divisions unless you are prestigious.

There are so many different directions this can go that it is hard to predict. I know that I would NOT want to be a anchor state school that is not respected academically. I don't know how a school like Kentucky competes in the future education market for students. There will be a shrinking market of kids interested in a national university, and access to the better schools will be less competitive going forward. Why would a kid that had other options go to Kentucky?

 

[shizzle787]

There are so many different directions this can go that it is hard to predict. I know that I would NOT want to be a anchor state school that is not respected academically. I don't know how a school like Kentucky competes in the future education market for students. There will be a shrinking market of kids interested in a national university, and access to the better schools will be less competitive going forward. Why would a kid that had other options go to Kentucky?

The state flagships will be fine (and that includes WVU). If people have heard of your school nationally, you will probably be okay.

 

[KryHavok]

The gambling scandal is coming and it will be devastating

Part of me is hoping it happens sooner. Aside from the occasional Super Bowl pool or playing the slots at Mohegan Sun or Las Vegas, I don't get the gambling allure. Listening to Jimmy the Greek all those years ago was fun, but the way gambling has become so pervasive in every damn sport (and I can't seem to watch soccer without the constant bombardment by Jamie Fox or the MGM girls) is nucking futs. What Pete Rose was stupid, but the athletes that continue to do it are dumber than a box of hair.

 

[superjohn]

Now let's see how long it's in the media cycle. I bet it's barely mentioned by the end of the month

MLB, NFL, NBA they just sweep this stuff under the rug. People might be outraged for a few days and then it's back to nobody caring. Look at how Stern made the whole reffing scandal go away and got his huge NBA TV deal. They were fixing NBA playoff games with NBA championships on the line.

 

[hank970]

There are so many different directions this can go that it is hard to predict. I know that I would NOT want to be a anchor state school that is not respected academically. I don't know how a school like Kentucky competes in the future education market for students. There will be a shrinking market of kids interested in a national university, and access to the better schools will be less competitive going forward. Why would a kid that had other options go to Kentucky?

Kids who have other options might not choose Kentucky, but there are lot of kids who don't have other options, particularly in a relatively poor state like Kentucky. So, they choose UK.

Everything is relative. Ask yourself this: Why would a kid with the option to attend Harvard or Yale or Princeton pick UConn?

 

[dayooper]

Kids who have other options might not choose Kentucky, but there are lot of kids who don't have other options, particularly in a relatively poor state like Kentucky. So, they choose UK.

Everything is relative. Ask yourself this: Why would a kid with the option to attend Harvard or Yale or Princeton pick UConn?

I coached a kid that had a full ride to Iowa, PWO to Michigan and choose Harvard football. One of the best athletes I have ever coached (and I’ve coached kids that went to Big10, ACC, NFL, NHL and MBL) and took the Harvard route.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Kids who have other options might not choose Kentucky, but there are lot of kids who don't have other options, particularly in a relatively poor state like Kentucky. So, they choose UK.

Everything is relative. Ask yourself this: Why would a kid with the option to attend Harvard or Yale or Princeton pick UConn?

Other than cost, there is no reason to pick UConn over those three schools. That is kind of a silly question.

Kentucky is at the end of the trough, and a lot of schools are picking off a lot of students before Kentucky gets its first bite. There are cheaper schools than Kentucky, and there are many, many better schools than Kentucky. Kentucky had a place when the student population was growing nationwide, but those days are over, forever. Not only is the student population shrinking, but I think college attendance as a percentage of total kids between 18-22 will dip as more kids realize that it is not worth going into massive debt for a lot of degrees that it can get at a local school like Central, or whatever a particular kids equivalent of CCSU is.

 

[superjohn]

Other than cost, there is no reason to pick UConn over those three schools. That is kind of a silly question.

Kentucky is at the end of the trough, and a lot of schools are picking off a lot of students before Kentucky gets its first bite. There are cheaper schools than Kentucky, and there are many, many better schools than Kentucky. Kentucky had a place when the student population was growing nationwide, but those days are over, forever. Not only is the student population shrinking, but I think college attendance as a percentage of total kids between 18-22 will dip as more kids realize that it is not worth going into massive debt for a lot of degrees that it can get at a local school like Central, or whatever a particular kids equivalent of CCSU is.

This is my favorite version of Waylon^^

 

[hank970]

Other than cost, there is no reason to pick UConn over those three schools. That is kind of a silly question.

Kentucky is at the end of the trough, and a lot of schools are picking off a lot of students before Kentucky gets its first bite. There are cheaper schools than Kentucky, and there are many, many better schools than Kentucky. Kentucky had a place when the student population was growing nationwide, but those days are over, forever. Not only is the student population shrinking, but I think college attendance as a percentage of total kids between 18-22 will dip as more kids realize that it is not worth going into massive debt for a lot of degrees that it can get at a local school like Central, or whatever a particular kids equivalent of CCSU is.

Of course it was silly, just like your characterization of UK was silly. You're looking down on that school from UConn's perch, and others are looking down on UConn from theirs. To paraphrase you, there are cheaper schools than UConn, and there are many, many better schools than UConn. No doubt some institutions are going to struggle as the nation's demographics change, and those changes are going to affect every school -- even UConn -- in one way or another.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

See CCSU and Charter Oak….

Charter Oak carries minimal overhead. West Conn is a different story.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Of course it was silly, just like your characterization of UK was silly. You're looking down on that school from UConn's perch, and others are looking down on UConn from theirs. To paraphrase you, there are cheaper schools than UConn, and there are many, many better schools than UConn. No doubt some institutions are going to struggle as the nation's demographics change, and those changes are going to affect every school -- even UConn -- in one way or another.

This is like teaching economics to a golden retriever. The student population is shrinking, and there are not going to be enough students for all the schools. Some schools are going to lose, because students are going to pick the better product at the better price. Education is not the first industry to go through a contraction, so this is not splitting the atom intellectually, well at least to everyone but you.

It sounds like you think Kentucky is a better school academically than UConn. Every single college ranking in the country outside of Kentucky thinks you are wrong, by a lot.

 

[hank970]

This is like teaching economics to a golden retriever. The student population is shrinking, and there are not going to be enough students for all the schools. Some schools are going to lose, because students are going to pick the better product at the better price. Education is not the first industry to go through a contraction, so this is not splitting the atom intellectually, well at least to everyone but you.

It sounds like you think Kentucky is a better school academically than UConn. Every single college ranking in the country outside of Kentucky thinks you are wrong, by a lot.

I know that Kentucky ranks lower than UConn in most undergraduate academic metrics, and I didn't claim otherwise. But kids in Kentucky and other states are still more likely to choose their state flagships and other nearby institutions over higher ranked out-of-state schools, including UConn. In addition, some students are attracted to a school because it excels in a particular discipline -- geology, for example, or environmental science, or physics, or aeronautical engineering, or architecture, or creative writing. In which areas of study is UConn so superior that it would attract students away from their home states?

If you think that UConn is better equipped to weather the coming demographic storm than those other schools because it might rank higher on USN&WR (and it doesn't when compared to many), then you'll have to come up with a more persuasive argument than your feeble ad hominem attacks on my understanding of the situation. I note with considerable interest that UConn's endowment and its research activity don't compare favorably with a lot of seemingly inferior institutions, even with those of UK.