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I don't know you, but as a fellow lawya I feel compelled to tell you that you aren't helping your case by arguing with this nitwit, counselor.
Can't help myself
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I don't know you, but as a fellow lawya I feel compelled to tell you that you aren't helping your case by arguing with this nitwit, counselor.
Do people still think lawyer jokes are funny?
Obviously you are not a fan of Get Shorty or Be Cool but for the rest of us 50 lawyer jokes in 2 minuteMaybe it's just that I'm not 70. I don't know. I don't think I've ever heard anyone younger than that use the word "shylock" unless they were talking about the Merchant of Venice. Thanks for the input, though.
Obviously you are not a fan of Get Shorty or Be Cool but for the rest of us 50 lawyer jokes in 2 minute
#BoneyardingShould I waste time reading any of these posts are they all a bunch of stupid arguments about pointless garbage hijacking another recruiting post?
Let's get our insults straight. "Shylock" is a moneylender or loan shark. "Shyster" is a shady lawyer (athough some schmucks consider that a oxymoron).Maybe it's just that I'm not 70. I don't know. I don't think I've ever heard anyone younger than that use the word "shylock" unless they were talking about the Merchant of Venice. Thanks for the input, though.
Correct, the anti-Semitic notion someone implied is also a reach. The historical/literary context has some Jewish connotations but otherwise it's a term referring to money lending and loan sharking.Let's get our insults straight. "Shylock" is a moneylender or loan shark. "Shyster" is a shady lawyer (athough some schmucks consider that a oxymoron).
This thread just made me spend a bunch of time looking to see if "shyster" had anti-semitic origins. In origins, no, although people may use a word as they see fit and imbue it with their own shades of meaning. (http://www.newyorklawjournal.com/id=900005387204/Is-Shyster-AntiSemitic?slreturn=20150614200858)Correct, the anti-Semitic notion someone implied is also a reach. The historical/literary context has some Jewish connotations but otherwise it's a term referring to money lending and loan sharking.
Let's get our insults straight. "Shylock" is a moneylender or loan shark. "Shyster" is a shady lawyer (athough some schmucks consider that a oxymoron).
As a Jewish lawyer, my 3 cents (Jewish lawyers always charge more being Shylock shysters). Shylock was a Shakesperian Jewish character meant to portray the universally detested Jew. The name became synonymous with Jews who Christians viewed as money-grubbing money handlers. The Jewish connection with money lending was the direct product of the interpretation of the New Testament passages dealing with money changers being driven from the Temple. The result for centuries in Europe was the restriction to money lending activities to Jews, not Christians, the Jews being otherwise prohibited from many cross cultural occupations and from owning land. So as money lenders, they became hated.This thread just made me spend a bunch of time looking to see if "shyster" had anti-semitic origins. In origins, no, although people may use a word as they see fit and imbue it with their own shades of meaning. (http://www.newyorklawjournal.com/id=900005387204/Is-Shyster-AntiSemitic?slreturn=20150614200858)
I take your comment to be about the work "Shylock," here, though (since "shyster" is specific to lawyers), and the literary history of a "Shylock" doesn't have "some Jewish connotations," it has all the Jewish connotations.
Go Alterique.
I like talking about guys we have. All else is as meaningless as lawyer jokes.This thread is about Hamidou Diallo, man. Quit taking things off-topic.
As a Jewish lawyer, my 3 cents (Jewish lawyers always charge more being Shylock shysters). Shylock was a Shakesperian Jewish character meant to portray the universally detested Jew. The name became synonymous with Jews who Christians viewed as money-grubbing money handlers. The Jewish connection with money lending was the direct product of the interpretation of the New Testament passages dealing with money changers being driven from the Temple. The result for centuries in Europe was the restriction to money lending activities to Jews, not Christians, the Jews being otherwise prohibited from many cross cultural occupations and from owning land. So as money lenders, they became hated..
Right. Just to be clear, I know the history, which is why I said it has all the connotations--calling someone a "Shylock" is so obviously racist as to feel particularly old-timey.As a Jewish lawyer, my 3 cents (Jewish lawyers always charge more being Shylock shysters). Shylock was a Shakesperian Jewish character meant to portray the universally detested Jew. The name became synonymous with Jews who Christians viewed as money-grubbing money handlers. The Jewish connection with money lending was the direct product of the interpretation of the New Testament passages dealing with money changers being driven from the Temple. The result for centuries in Europe was the restriction to money lending activities to Jews, not Christians, the Jews being otherwise prohibited from many cross cultural occupations and from owning land. So as money lenders, they became hated.
Shyster isn't all that much connected to Jews as is "Shylock."
Most lawyers I know don't mind lawyer jokes. They persist even among younger people, sorry Ernie, but those of us who are 70 or older understand age discrimination
Go Alterique.
You should realize by now that:Should I waste time reading any of these posts are they all a bunch of stupid arguments about pointless garbage hijacking another recruiting post?
The world would be a better place if there weren't lawyers, psychologists, psychiatrists, theologians, accountants, politicians, journalists, soldiers .......
Correct that! If the world was a better place there wouldn't be lawyers, psychologists, psychiatrists, theologians, accountants, politicians, journalists, soldiers .......
This thread proves both points.
I know that you know. I just had the feeling that some others had no idea who Shakespeare was or that they know Venice only as a town in California that specialized in, um, "medical" weed.Right. Just to be clear, I know the history, which is why I said it has all the connotations--calling someone a "Shylock" is so obviously racist as to feel particularly old-timey.
I hate you!Okay back to Diallo - no shot - DOOMED
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What a killjoy.Okay back to Diallo - no shot - DOOMED
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