Pac 12 as we know it: 23-24 Season Outlook

[LoTrader]

Pre-season article reviewing PAC-12 WBB Teams: Once More with Feeling

 

[Floridaduck]

Very excited. My wife and I will be in Oregon for Thanksgiving this year. My kids all live on the West Coast. The Duck WBB team have a game (Santa Clara) on November 18 and we will be going. First time to MKA since we came to Florida in 2012.

 

[LoTrader]

Very excited. My wife and I will be in Oregon for Thanksgiving this year. My kids all live on the West Coast. The Duck WBB team have a game (Santa Clara) on November 18 and we will be going. First time to MKA since we came to Florida in 2012.

 

[Floridaduck]

Still no decision from the NCAA about Oregon transfer Priscilla Williams eligibility. Potentially a premium scorer for the Ducks so hoping for best.

 

[Floridaduck]

Welcome to the Season!!!

Oregon exhibition game with Southern Oregon University: 76-57

Last year starters VanSlooten, Chance Gray, and Phillipina Kyei were joined by Grad Transfer Peyton Scott (Miami, OH) and Freshman Sophia Bell (Portland, OR)
Gray, Bell, Scott, and VanSlooten in double figures.

PT spread out among 11 players. No Priscilla Williams tonight.

 

[Floridaduck]

Can we finally credit the strength of the Pac-12 now? Colorado and USC aren’t even projected to be the top teams in the conference. UCLA also dominated a P5 team in the opener. Utah, Stanford, Arizona, and WSU are still to be heard from against P5 teams. Oregon, Oregon State, and UW aren’t exactly chopped liver either and will be tough at home. Strong, deep Conference.

 

[cancontent]

Can we finally credit the strength of the Pac-12 now? Colorado and USC aren’t even projected to be the top teams in the conference. UCLA also dominated a P5 team in the opener. Utah, Stanford, Arizona, and WSU are still to be heard from against P5 teams. Oregon, Oregon State, and UW aren’t exactly chopped liver either and will be tough at home. Strong, deep Conference.

Which makes what happened to the conference so frustrating. That's what sucks the most.

 

[Floridaduck]

The destruction of the “Conference of Champions” is a tragedy. Nearly unbearable.

 

[visitingcock]

I have been critical of the PAC's non-conference schedule and performance for a few years. But, that was one impressive opening night!

 

[LoTrader]

Top to Bottom the PAC-12 is tough. No PAC-12 Team will be undefeated in the regular season.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Top to Bottom the PAC-12 is tough. No PAC-12 Team will be undefeated in the regular season.

For sure. I have a hard time seeing anyone get thru with only 1 or 2 losses. Conference champ could have 3 at least.

 

[jake0414]

Top to Bottom the PAC-12 is tough. No PAC-12 Team will be undefeated in the regular season.

Not many D-1 programs have had undefeated regular seasons. There have been nine undefeated national champions: UConn six times (1995, 2002, 2009, 2010, 2014, 2016), Texas (1986), Tennessee (1998), Baylor (2012). South Carolina went undefeated in the regular season last year. As best I can tell no PAC-12 team has ever finished undefeated in regular season. Stanford went undefeated in PAC-12 conference play eight times (1989, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2022); Oregon finished conference play undefeated three times (1979, 1980, 1982) and USC went undefeated once (1986).

But agree the PAC-12 has many strong teams as evidenced by Colorado’s and USC’s wins yesterday. Unlikely any team emerges undefeated in conference play.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Not many D-1 programs have had undefeated regular seasons. There have been nine undefeated national champions: UConn six times (1995, 2002, 2009, 2010, 2014, 2016), Texas (1986), Tennessee (1998), Baylor (2012). South Carolina went undefeated in the regular season last year. As best I can tell no PAC-12 team has ever finished undefeated in regular season. Stanford went undefeated in PAC-12 conference play eight times (1989, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2022); Oregon finished conference play undefeated three times (1979, 1980, 1982) and USC went undefeated once (1986).

But agree the PAC-12 has many strong teams as evidenced by Colorado’s and USC’s wins yesterday. Unlikely any team emerges undefeated in conference play.

I'm almost certain he's referring to conference play only as far as going undefeated for Pac schools.

 

[Floridaduck]

With Peyton Scott out for the season, the Ducks had to scramble the rotation a bit. Senior transfer Kennedi Williams started at PG but Chance Gray logged more minutes there. The other four starters were all in double figures with VanSlooten and Kyei recording double doubles. Ducks hit 47% from 3 with Gray and Bell combining for 9-18. Frosh Rambus and Wagner were the primary subs.
Although very young (3 Frosh, 2 Sophs in the current 7 player rotation) this team should make some noise and a run at the playoffs. The much improved and more aggressive offensively 6' 8" Phillipina Kyei is like the key.

 

[cancontent]

With Peyton Scott out for the season, the Ducks had to scramble the rotation a bit. Senior transfer Kennedi Williams started at PG but Chance Gray logged more minutes there. The other four starters were all in double figures with VanSlooten and Kyei recording double doubles. Ducks hit 47% from 3 with Gray and Bell combining for 9-18. Frosh Rambus and Wagner were the primary subs.
Although very young (3 Frosh, 2 Sophs in the current 7 player rotation) this team should make some noise and a run at the playoffs. The much improved and more aggressive offensively 6' 8" Phillipina Kyei is like the key.

Hoping to see progress in Kyei this season. Surprised she didn't make the SWNT for AmeriCup. Would have liked to see her go up against players like Reese to see how she would have fared.

 

[Britt87]

Pac looking like the best conference right now.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Oregon St. gonna win a pick em game against Villanova. Of course Nova isn't the same team w/out Siegrist, but decent win for the Beavs.

Stanford is DESTROYING Indiana at the half.

Pac is looking really tough so far.

 

[Floridaduck]

Pac-12 is currently 24-0 but don't look now - giant killer Colorado is losing to Oklahoma State (by 7) late in the third- at home!

 

[jonson]

Hoping to see progress in Kyei this season. Surprised she didn't make the SWNT for AmeriCup. Would have liked to see her go up against players like Reese to see how she would have fared.

Two straight double/doubles so far. Very good passing, better rebounding, really working on her right hand finishing.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Okie St. put a scare into Colorado, but the Buffs pulled away late. I looked a few minutes ago and it was tied, now CU is up 12 under a minute left.

 

[nwhoopfan]

You could pretty much make an all star team of former Arizona players. Vonleh is really playing well at Colorado. Asi is lightining it up this year for Oklahoma St. Conner has been killing it for TCU. I think there are probably several others. I don't know what Barnes is doing there, but her revolving door of players doesn't seem to be working great. It's been pretty meh in Tucson ever since McDonald left.

 

[nwhoopfan]

The entire 2016 Oregon St. team (Final 4 year) was inducted into their Hall of Fame. Several key members were unable to attend the weekends festivities though due to currently playing overseas. Hamblin, Wiese, Gulich.

 

[visitingcock]

First ever

From today’s RPI rankings:

1. USCar
2. USCal

 

[Floridaduck]

I understand all the caveats about methodology BUT:

This morning's Massey has 8 Pac-12 teams in the Top 25 (Massey Ratings - College Basketball Women's : NCAA D1 Ratings) and Oregon State sitting at #26.

By conference There is a big gap:
Pac-12 27-0 Power Rating 8.42
ACC 28-5 Power Rating 8.11
SEC 29-5 Power Rating 8.07
Big 10 23-6 Power Rating 7.97
Big 12 23-3 Power Rating 7.57

Massey Ratings - College Basketball Women's : NCAA D1 Ratings

Computer ratings and rankings for CBW (College Basketball Women's), with links to team predictions, scores, and schedules.

masseyratings.com

Next big test for conference schools is Utah @ Baylor on Tuesday.

 

[TheFarmFan]

I understand all the caveats about methodology BUT:

This morning's Massey has 8 Pac-12 teams in the Top 25 (Massey Ratings - College Basketball Women's : NCAA D1 Ratings) and Oregon State sitting at #26.

By conference There is a big gap:
Pac-12 27-0 Power Rating 8.42
ACC 28-5 Power Rating 8.11
SEC 29-5 Power Rating 8.07
Big 10 23-6 Power Rating 7.97
Big 12 23-3 Power Rating 7.57

Massey Ratings - College Basketball Women's : NCAA D1 Ratings

Computer ratings and rankings for CBW (College Basketball Women's), with links to team predictions, scores, and schedules.

masseyratings.com

Next big test for conference schools is Utah @ Baylor or Tuesday.

I guess the conference will at least be going out on a high note? I'd love to see a Pac-12 school win this year's natty, though probably not U$C or FUCLA...