OT: Oh boy

[whosurdaddy2720]

Mike Anderson suing St. John's.

I feel like I've heard this story before.

Ex-coach Anderson seeks $45.6M from St. John's

 

[August_West]

Smart. Schools gotta stop being dumb

 

[Connecticut13]

And he should sue. It seems to me that he's at least due the remaining portion of his contract -- though getting the punitive damages may be a stretch.

When we fired Kevin Ollie "for cause", at least he was in trouble with the NCAA and ultimately was hit with a three-year show-cause penalty. I'm still not sure what "cause" St. Johns had to fire Mike Anderson.

If KO was successful contesting his "for cause" firing, I assume Mike Anderson will also be successful.

 

[UCTitleTown]

I posted on social media when I heard of this. Did the Kevin Ollie situation not teach schools anything. Finding a better coach for your program doesn't equate to just cause not to pay the current coach's contract.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

I'm still not sure what "cause" St. Johns had to fire Mike Anderson.

 

[Kenny11]

He’s going to win. They should offer him the 11.4M plus lawyer fees now.

 

[August_West]

He’s going to win. They should offer him the 11.4M plus lawyer fees now.

All day long.

 

[shizzle787]

He’s going to win. They should offer him the 11.4M plus lawyer fees now.

They will probably will. That is likely the play here.

 

[Dove]

I posted on social media when I heard of this. Did the Kevin Ollie situation not teach schools anything. Finding a better coach for your program doesn't equate to just cause not to pay the current coach's contract.

Just write that you tweeted something about this.

 

[Fishy]

He might win. He might lose.

It would seem that he’s on more solid ground than Ollie, but Ollie had a unique situation with the union that Anderson does not.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

He might win. He might lose.

It would seem that he’s on more solid ground than Ollie, but Ollie had a unique situation with the union that Anderson does not.

The worst legal analyst in the world weighs in.

While the $34 million punitive damages are a stretch, some punitive damages are not out of the question once St. John’s gets pummeled on the “for cause” termination. St. John’s should pay out the contract immediately and move on, or it could get a lot worse.

 

[Zissou]

The worst legal analyst in the world weighs in.

While the $34 million punitive damages are a stretch, some punitive damages are not out of the question once St. John’s gets pummeled on the “for cause” termination. St. John’s should pay out the contract immediately and move on, or it could get a lot worse.

Anderson didn’t live up to our St John’s standards, so we are bringing in Pitino

 

[Palatine]

Anderson didn’t live up to our St John’s standards, so we are bringing in Pitino

This. Schools would hire Charles Manson if he could deliver them a winner.

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

This. Schools would hire Charles Manson if he could deliver them a winner.

I hate myself for the number of off color jokes this post made me think of...

 

[WhereistheDove?]

Has anyone reported what cause this school is pinning this on? Feels totally mind-boggling doing what they did without at least feeding some reporter a plausible story for what the "cause" is.

 

[Zissou]

Thread needs a new Title. Maybe “St John’s Ollies Anderson”

 

[gtcam]

St John AD must have taken the same stupid pills that UConn had in their AD medicine cabinet.
Hope Anderson ends up on the best side of this mess - should have just paid him what was owed,

 

[gtcam]

Thread needs a new Title. Maybe “St John’s Ollies Anderson”

Maybe Nova should hire Anderson - nowhere as inept as Neptune

 

[Zissou]

Maybe Nova should hire Anderson - nowhere as inept as Neptune

Too early to tell. Neptune will at least get a few more years to prove himself, even if next year is again short of expectations. New to head coaching, but has a real strong support network with GM, experienced assistants, and Jay as a consultant mentor.

Anderson will win but maybe perceived as having a ceiling below final fours.

 

[Kolumbo]

Has anyone reported what cause this school is pinning this on? Feels totally mind-boggling doing what they did without at least feeding some reporter a plausible story for what the "cause" is.

He was clearly a bad seed

St. John's[edit]​

The 59-year-old was named the head coach at St. John's University on April 19, 2019, replacing Chris Mullin.[17]

On Feb. 16, 2021, Anderson won his 400th game as his Red Storm defeated Xavier. Anderson was named Big East Coach of the Year for the 2020–21 season. Anderson was given a 6-year extension as a result of his first two seasons at St. John's.[18]

 

[CL82]

Just write that you tweeted something about this.

Then later you can tweet that you mentioned your prior tweet on The Boneyard.

 

[noeynox]

Didn't know St. John's fired him ",with cause" . And to replace him with a guy who was fired with "legit cause"? Tell me you ain't that stupid St. John's.

 

[Husky25]

He was clearly a bad seed

St. John's[edit]​

The 59-year-old was named the head coach at St. John's University on April 19, 2019, replacing Chris Mullin.[17]

On Feb. 16, 2021, Anderson won his 400th game as his Red Storm defeated Xavier. Anderson was named Big East Coach of the Year for the 2020–21 season. Anderson was given a 6-year extension as a result of his first two seasons at St. John's.[18]

Losing is not "cause." The settlement is going to put a real dent in Pitino's Hookers and Blow budget, particularly at a Catholic university, where they need to reserve funds for the eventual coverup of such scandals.


From the ESPN article referenced above"[18]"...

"In my time at St. John's, Coach Anderson and the men's basketball program have represented our University in a first class manner on the court, in the classroom and in the community," university president Father Brian Shanley said in a statement.

Anderson, who won his 400th career game this past season, is one of only three active Division I coaches with at least 15 years of experience to have never had a sub-.500 season.

 

[Fishy]

The worst legal analyst in the world weighs in.

While the $34 million punitive damages are a stretch, some punitive damages are not out of the question once St. John’s gets pummeled on the “for cause” termination. St. John’s should pay out the contract immediately and move on, or it could get a lot worse.

Boy…..how come their lawyers see it differently?

They really need to cut those dudes loose and hire * checks notes * the dumbest clown on a UConn message board.

 

[Zissou]

Boy…..how come their lawyers see it differently?

They really need to cut those dudes loose and hire * checks notes * the dumbest clown on a UConn message board.

Fishy, in fairness to Nellie, he’s only saying some punitive damages are not out of the question, and the $34M is a stretch. I tend to agree with him. This is a really bad position for St John’s. Maybe they will find a way to outmaneuver Anderson legally, but I doubt it as the common sense face value of the situation is clearly in Anderson’s favor.

You were overly confident that Ollie would end up less than the $10.6M that he was contractually owed, either by settlement or ruling. Ollie ended up with $15M. (UConn should have paid up or settled early close to the $10.6).

That somehow Anderson fell short of the school culture standards of St John’s, and within days Pitino was hired to raise those standards, must be comical to 98%. I expect John’s to be exposed as having cause claims only to conveniently fire a coach and not pay him because Pitino was available after NCAA rehab at Iona. This face value will be hard for John’s to overcome.