ACC should take UConn, UL and UC because I suspect there will be further defections from the ACC in the future. This also forces the hand of the Big 12/SEC. Might as well get it all over with now.
Realistically, Louisville's location (proximity to most bowl games) means that their fans will travel in much greater numbers than either a UConn (or a Syracuse). That counts for something, too. I have felt that you guys are the logical choice.
Kind of surprised that Louisville is getting the play it's getting. I kind of think this is already a done deal for UConn, based on their quiet posture in the media right now. Those who have an invite keep quiet; those who don't campaign in the press.
It might be a hard sell for either UConn or Louisville alone to get the 14th spot. But to tell school presidents to split the pie into smaller pieces for three okay football programs and no really big ones (not that any are available) is probably a much harder sell. But as Katz implied, at this point maybe stuff doesn't need to make sense any more.
Point taken, bl. I guess I assumed some secret desires on the part of the SEC/Big 12. Sorta like a hidden crush waiting for... Hell, I have a headache.
Looks like he deleted your response.I had a key tweet today:
Louisville fan: @TheWildEagle38: Arguing between UConn and UofL for the ACC spot is so dumb it shouldn't even be a ? Yes they have good men's and women's bball but what else
My response: @mattmang23: @TheWildEagle38 start w/ 2x the market size, proximity to NYC & Boston and student body that wouldn't be rejected from CT community colleges
Looks like he deleted your response.
You should tell him we also have national titles in soccer and field hockey and they are only 4-3 against us in football. Louisville should just go to the Big 12. The Big East was a huge help to Louisville. But we were in the Big East way before. Would be nice if people would return favors.Awwww he didn't like things that make sense.
You should tell him we also have national titles in soccer and field hockey and they are only 4-3 against us in football. Louisville should just go to the Big 12. The Big East was a huge help to Louisville. But we were in the Big East way before. Would be nice if people would return favors.
I think we need a thread that is a repository of key tweets.
The best and most safe route to take for the ACC and ESPN is to take on UConn, Louisville, and Cincinnati, then renegotiate a slightly larger deal with espn so per school dollars go up a little and increase the buyout from 50 to 75-100 million. ESPN would increase the deal a little because if they don't, than schools will leave and the value of the conference may go down significantly. So in the long run ESPN will lose money from advertisers if they don't incentive the conference. Not sure about how easy it is to restructure the deal. Also, ESPN might just want to gamble that the ACC will stay in tact. They will lose that bet 95% of the time though. I'm sure my plan is too idealistic, but it seems to make a lot of sense.
Does it though? Or at least, does it count for much? Serious question.
Let's say UL/UConn make a bowl. If UL fills the stands and UConn only fills half it's allotment, that's great for UL and all but does it mean much if the number of TV's watching at home is half that of UConn's (I don't know the exact numbers, but theoretically)? TV ad revenue could more than make up for any lost gate sales, I would think.
Of course you have a ton of other factors, but if TV is really running things, attendance doesn't really matter as long as the eyes are glued to the screens if they aren't at the park.
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@SIPeteThamel Your comparison of UL vs. UConn athletics is lazy conventional wisdom. Have you checked head-to-head record in football?
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@SIPeteThamel How about number of times UConn finished ahead of UL in the Big East?
You forget the power of the bowl people. There is a TON of money made from tourism at all these cities; that's why there are so damn many of them now, and that is why the bowls haven't just gone away in favor of a straight up playoff system. And the bowl people want 35,000 people in the stands - and in the hotels, and bars and restaurants of the host city; not 1/10 of that number. It's not all about TV, although TV is obviously huge.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes... The best move the ACC can make, basically their only long-term hope. Arguing over petty differences among the three will be perilous. Take them all. NO ONE from SEC, B1G (or Pac, of course) is coming to ACC; highly unlikely any BigXII comes to ACC. The 2012 Big East is the "best of the rest", and UConn, Louisville, and Cincinnati are "the best of the 2012 Big East".
I would be stunned if it happened.