Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[Waquoit]

Nah UCF was already a No — too scared of having to resume the ConFliCT.

And those goobers still owe us for opening their building.

 

[JeepCSC]

Should get some good donations from that pr move.

 

[ctchamps]

ESPN does not own the media rights to Clemson and FSU, the ACC does. The ACC schools did not sign their GoR with ESPN, they signed it with the ACC who then leased their rights to ESPN (and Raycom). If a school leaves, the only thing ESPN can do is change the contract as the terms of the agreement were changed (a school left).

If the rumored payout by FSU and Clemson to leave the ACC is correct ($300 million each broken up evenly over 10 years), that would more than cover what ESPN might take away. Could ESPN leverage the ACC by dropping the contract down to an unacceptable level? Sure, but Disney is in no financial position to fight anything right now.

Do I believe the rumor? Not really, it came from one of the CR Twitterati.

Yes the ACC conference has the GOR and yes they have a second contract that gives all their members home games to ESPN for broadcasting.

It’s this leasing agreement that the ACC is contractually obligated for the time period equal to the GOR to provide content to ESPN.

If FSU leaves, the ACC must come up with content to provide to ESPN that ESPN agrees replaces what FSU would provide if they remained.

It’s unlikely the ACC can grab a different school that would accomplish this so the ACC will sue FSU to retain all revenues of FSU’s home games as agreed upon by the GOR contract.

The conference that FSU goes to would have to agree to take FSU under these circumstances. How likely is the ACC GOR going to win and how likely any conference is going to take a chance on accepting FSU under these circumstances is speculative.

 

[ctchamps]

Is it possible that maybe, just maybe, someone would consider whether trashing universities we are hoping will vote to admit us within a few days might not be a brilliant strategic move?

We’re showing that we can win in trash talking as an indicator that we’ll settle for nothing less than a winning football program.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

It's very easy to appreciate the scenery around the UConn Campus and I think new visitors will fall in love with the area

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I've been thinking each time I pass by the I-84 signs that they need to be upgraded/bigger. With people going by at 70+ mph, they can't even be read. Come on DOT - get your game on!!!

 

[hoopsfan22]

I've been thinking each time I pass by the I-84 signs that they need to be upgraded/bigger. With people going by at 70+ mph, they can't even be read. Come on DOT - get your game on!!!

If Attorney Brooke Goff can have three consecutive closely spaced billboards along our highways, then surely we can do the same for UConn? One big sign for men's basketball, another for women's basketball, then another sign for the other sports.

 

[Vowelguy]

I've been thinking each time I pass by the I-84 signs that they need to be upgraded/bigger. With people going by at 70+ mph, they can't even be read. Come on DOT - get your game on!!!

Especially when the signs keep getting loaded with more and more info as teams keep winning NCs.

 

[BigTenFan]

I think the #1 thing they should put on and/or near UConn campus is a nice hotel. They used to have the Nathan Hale Inn but that didn't last long.
Prospective students, families and recruits would get a better experience visiting by staying on campus vs Manchester or surrounding towns

Would be great if they could build a hotel in student Union

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Yes the ACC conference has the GOR and yes they have a second contract that gives all their members home games to ESPN for broadcasting.

It’s this leasing agreement that the ACC is contractually obligated for the time period equal to the GOR to provide content to ESPN.

If FSU leaves, the ACC must come up with content to provide to ESPN that ESPN agrees replaces what FSU would provide if they remained.

It’s unlikely the ACC can grab a different school that would accomplish this so the ACC will sue FSU to retain all revenues of FSU’s home games as agreed upon by the GOR contract.

The conference that FSU goes to would have to agree to take FSU under these circumstances. How likely is the ACC GOR going to win and how likely any conference is going to take a chance on accepting FSU under these circumstances is speculative.

The problem with your theory is that until some sort of separation agreement is reached, even if FSU leaves the ACC, the ACC has broadcast rights to FSU games.

I'm pretty sure that the ACC cannot just release FSU (for some monetary consideration), replace them with whoever (Tulane?, UConn if available, etc.) and then tell ESPN the product the ACC is delivering is substantially equal to the product that was contracted.

 

[ctchamps]

The problem with your theory is that until some sort of separation agreement is reached, even if FSU leaves the ACC, the ACC has broadcast rights to FSU games.

I'm pretty sure that the ACC cannot just release FSU (for some monetary consideration), replace them with whoever (Tulane?, UConn if available, etc.) and then tell ESPN the product the ACC is delivering is substantially equal to the product that was contracted.

They can tell ESPN anything and after the lawyers finish laughing at them get notified they are going to be sued.

 

[UConnJim]

Lolz, Ames absolutely blows Storrs away as a college town.

Maybe, but there are some great attractions nearby. Basketball Hall of Fame, Boston, NYC, fall colors in Berkshires/VT/NH, Foxwoods/Mohegan Sun, Mystic Seaport, Old Sturbridge Village, Dinosaur State park,...

 

[UConnJim]

I think the #1 thing they should put on and/or near UConn campus is a nice hotel. They used to have the Nathan Hale Inn but that didn't last long.
Prospective students, families and recruits would get a better experience visiting by staying on campus vs Manchester or surrounding towns

Would be great if they could build a hotel in student Union

There is the Graduate Storrs hotel.

 

[CL82]

I think the #1 thing they should put on and/or near UConn campus is a nice hotel. They used to have the Nathan Hale Inn but that didn't last long.
Prospective students, families and recruits would get a better experience visiting by staying on campus vs Manchester or surrounding towns

Would be great if they could build a hotel in student Union

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[upstater]

Or three breweries and a winery

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Wow it’s come up over the yrs. I was there when they celebrated Krispy Kreme. Then again Breweries are on every block these days. People used to flee Ames. Maybe I should give Stillwater another try. Or maybe not

 

[HuskyHawk]

To get back to Key Tweets. Including in Key because of who Bob was.

 

[upstater]

The ex Fox exec weighing in on B12 realignment said Fox should not pay up for UConn since they already own them.

When I asked if that meant they were more valuable in the BE he seemed to say yes. So according to him he’d rather see UConn play BE teams because that would have more value for FOX than them playing B12 teams. BUT it could also mean that the BE would have less sheen without the men and women.

 

[businesslawyer]

Thankfully university presidents don't visit the Boneyard.

And you know that boosters sharing their opinion with school administrators don't? Thank goodness for your superior knowledge.

I doubt it matters. But it can't help, and it can only hurt.

 

[ctchamps]

The problem with your theory is that until some sort of separation agreement is reached, even if FSU leaves the ACC, the ACC has broadcast rights to FSU games.

I'm pretty sure that the ACC cannot just release FSU (for some monetary consideration), replace them with whoever (Tulane?, UConn if available, etc.) and then tell ESPN the product the ACC is delivering is substantially equal to the product that was contracted.

That's my point. ESPN doesn't directly own the GOR. Their contract with the ACC is the content it provides them.

If FSU leaves ESPN will sue the ACC and the ACC will sue FSU. The ACC will retain the rights to FSU's home games for the duration of the GOR and ESPN will retain the rights to distribute those games. The conference FSU leaves the ACC to go to will be paying FSU whatever they agree upon but they will not receive any revenues FSU generates that are obligated to the ACC.

 

[CL82]

The ex Fox exec weighing in on B12 realignment said Fox should not pay up for UConn since they already own them.

When I asked if that meant they were more valuable in the BE he seemed to say yes. So according to him he’d rather see UConn play BE teams because that would have more value for FOX than them playing B12 teams. BUT it could also mean that the BE would have less sheen without the men and women.

That's one possible interpretation, the other is that fox would not agree to the pro rata addition of Connecticut because they'd rather pay $4 million for content they are certain to have access to than $31 million for content that they might not even get to broadcast. He may simply "prefer Connecticut in the big east" because it is dramatically less expensive and he knows he would have his pick of our games broadcast.

It doesn't matter which of those interpretations are correct because either way they would result in it Fox not offering to pay Connecticut a full pro rata share. That's always been a potential issue. The counter argument is that if fox pays a premium for Connecticut to join the big 12 it can make up that money by paying less for the big east on their next deal. A third of $31 million is $10.33M. Say the next big east deal, with Connecticut in the conference, is worth $8 million per school, but without Connecticut is only worth $7 million per school. Effectively, then it is a breakeven proposition for fox whether Connecticut is in the big 12 or in the big east, at least from an expense perspective. If the difference is $8 million with Connecticut and $6 million without Connecticut, then Fox would actually save money by supporting Connecticut to the big 12.

 

[greenday61892]

And you know that boosters sharing their opinion with school administrators don't? Thank goodness for your superior knowledge.

I doubt it matters. But it can't help, and it can only hurt.

 

[superjohn]

I've never been to Ames but what exactly does it have going for it that Storrs doesn't? As 20 year olds we didn't need, and couldn't afford, much more than kegs, eggs, burgers, and bonfires. Storrs isn't one of those towns turning into what every other urban area has become, stacked with the same national chains as every other city. To me that is more college town than anything else. From a student perspective. Minus the football stadium of course. Plus, you are close to lakes, the ocean, and casinos for the kids who can afford to drop some cash.

It seems today more and more people are taking up healthier lifestyles and activities like hiking, biking, kayaking, etc. Storrs has it all!

Well for one, it's a college town whereas Mansfield/Storrs is just a town with a college in it. A town that doesn't particularly want a University in it.

As for Ames there's a strip of college bars and bars all over the place, restaurants all over, cafes, live music, breweries. Bars, restaurants, and stores that have been there forever. They have a bunch of hotels. They have a large football stadium on campus. You hit on why UConn/Storrs isn't a college town. It's never been a college town and they tried to create one somewhat recently by building brand new cookie cutter buildings to house overpriced chains. That didn't make it a college town unfortunately.

It's bizarre anyone would even attempt to argue Storrs is a better college town than Ames but here upstater is. Ames and Iowa City blow Storrs out of the water.

 

[Waquoit]

It's bizarre anyone would even attempt to argue Storrs is a better college town than Ames but here upstater is. Ames and Iowa City blow Storrs out of the water.

Baloney. Storrs isn't in Gilead.

 

[ctchamps]

That's one possible interpretation, the other is that fox would not agree to the pro rata addition of Connecticut because they'd rather pay for million dollars for content they are certain to have access to than $31 million for content that they might not even get to broadcast. He may simply "prefer Connecticut in the big east" because it is dramatically less expensive and he knows he would have his pick of our games broadcast.

It doesn't matter which of those interpretations are correct because either way they would result in it Fox not offering to pay Connecticut a full pro rata share. That's always been a potential issue. The counter argument is that if fox pays a premium for Connecticut to join the big 12 it can make up that money by paying less for the big east on their next deal. A third of $31 million is $10.33M. Say the next big east deal, with Connecticut in the conference, is worth $8 million per school, but without Connecticut is only worth $7 million per school. Effectively, then it is a breakeven proposition for fox whether Connecticut is in the big 12 or in the big east, at least from inexpensive perspective. If the difference is 8 million with Connecticut and 6 million without Connecticut, then Fox would actually save money by supporting Connecticut to the big 12.

This. And Yormack and ESPN have convinced FOX to support the B12 by agreeing to give them some content to make it worthwhile for FOX to accept the move.

 

[CL82]

Well for one, it's a college town whereas Mansfield/Storrs is just a town with a college in it. A town that doesn't particularly want a University in it.

As for Ames there's a strip of college bars and bars all over the place, restaurants all over, cafes, live music, breweries. Bars, restaurants, and stores that have been there forever. They have a bunch of hotels. They have a large football stadium on campus. You hit on why UConn/Storrs isn't a college town. It's never been a college town and they tried to create one somewhat recently by building brand new cookie cutter buildings to house overpriced chains. That didn't make it a college town unfortunately.

It's bizarre anyone would even attempt to argue Storrs is a better college town than Ames but here upstater is. Ames and Iowa City blow Storrs out of the water.

Is this a low key on campus football stadium argument?

 

[Stinger92860]

The ex Fox exec weighing in on B12 realignment said Fox should not pay up for UConn since they already own them.

When I asked if that meant they were more valuable in the BE he seemed to say yes. So according to him he’d rather see UConn play BE teams because that would have more value for FOX than them playing B12 teams. BUT it could also mean that the BE would have less sheen without the men and women.

It likely means both

…and 2 Kansas vs UConn MBB games a year, minimum, is a national broadcast. Plus they can also pick up a handful of a million in advertising with WBB. Not a lot bit maybe 1-2 Million. Are there any good WBB teams in the B12 that can draw a few eyeballs? Add it all up and we are worthy of a valuation somewhere between 10 Million and 30 Million. Give us a proposal.