Wally East
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Ugh, I feel sorry for the La Tech, fans, too. La Tech has fallen so far.
And what about the impregnated "other woman"? She doesn't get a pass, despite her bleak future. There will be no shortage of people to judge her, but I am not one of them.
Nope. We're not doing this. We are not judging the player. Nope. Nope. Nope.
Nope. We're not doing this. We are not judging the player. Nope. Nope. Nope.
I agree that being young and stupid isn't an excuse. Disagree regarding the irrelevancy of the fact that it consensual. That doesn't make what he did acceptable, it just makes it noxious.Young? Not an excuse. Then he was too young to take the job. Stupid?, yes he was, but not an excuse. Consensual? Not when it's a subordinate.
I can't feel badly for him. He's, hopefully, gonna get what he deserves.
It can't be consensual when one person is in power over the other. By definition. That's why he resigned - if he had just cheated on his wife with with a random person no one would know, or care. (probably)I agree that being young and stupid isn't an excuse. Disagree regarding the fact that it consensual. That doesn't make what he did acceptable, it just makes it noxious.
Geesh, you guys are a tough crowd. Love the sinner; hate the sin.
I HIGHLY doubt they are related. If Marquette had knowledge of an inappropriate relationship I'm pretty sure they'd be obligated to tell LaTech.
That is not what we mean by nonconsensual. It's a similar theory to when children are molested - sure, they can say yes, but they aren't in a position to say no because they have no power in the situation.Non consensual sex would imply that he raped her. You think she feels that way?
Nope. And I doubt any young coaches will get a chance again after this.The nepotism/age angle has really been under-discussed here.
In this era, what coach is hired at the age of 23 to coach a (once-)major D-I women's basketball program? If his name was anything other than "Summitt", would he have even gotten an interview?
That is not what we mean by nonconsensual. It's a similar theory to when children are molested - sure, they can say yes, but they aren't in a position to say no because they have no power in the situation.
Even if she is his same age, and pursued him, the power balance is not equal and therefore the relationship cannot be considered consensual. She has everything to lose - scholarship, playing time, etc. He holds power over her, similar to a boss at a company with a subordinate. It's unethical to sleep with a subordinate, no matter how much they flirt with you. The power balance is off. That's why universities and workplaces have rules against this
It can't be consensual. Do you really not understand that? Monica Lewinsky did not have consensual sexual relations with Bill Clinton, even if she said yes to him. Even if she was an adult. Because he held all the power (literally). So it wasn't an equal relationship to begin with.Then you are just using the term "non consensual" to mean something else, which is conflating terms. 'Abuse of a position of power', sure. But the sex was consensual.
And that's a pretty weak definition for someone who is an adult by law. I mean, a young kid? Your definition fits to a tee, as they don't know better. If a college girl doesn't know any better, she's been criminally sheltered. Did Summit have to wipe her arse too?
I deleted my post anyway, given the NCAA bylaws post above. If they spelled it out, they spelled it out. And that's it.
That is not what we mean by nonconsensual. It's a similar theory to when children are molested - sure, they can say yes, but they aren't in a position to say no because they have no power in the situation.
Even if she is his same age, and pursued him, the power balance is not equal and therefore the relationship cannot be considered consensual. She has everything to lose - scholarship, playing time, etc. He holds power over her, similar to a boss at a company with a subordinate. It's unethical to sleep with a subordinate, no matter how much they flirt with you. The power balance is off. That's why universities and workplaces have rules against this.
It can't be consensual. Do you really not understand that? Monica Lewinsky did not have consensual sexual relations with Bill Clinton, even if she said yes to him. Even if she was an adult. Because he held all the power (literally). So it wasn't an equal relationship to begin with.
Same with this player. Even if she transferred to be at La Tech. Even if she came on to him. Even if she flirted. It's not the same as a relationship between two peers. Because she stood to lose everything if she stopped the relationship - playing time, her scholarship, etc.