Mediocre episode. Rick's zaniness (having visions etc.) is getting very annoying...
Mediocre episode. Rick's zaniness (having visions etc.) is getting very annoying...
Not a fan at all. I was fine with it when *****SPOILER ALERT******** Lori died, but I hope this is not a permanent thing.
You are kind of missing half the show. It's not just a zombie survival show, it's also a morality play. And the comparison of the two apocalyptic world views. Which makes it much more realistic and much more interesting/entertaining. It allows not only for character development, but also for character change. How does good become bad, how does bad become good. Good people doing bad things, bad people doing good things. Who's really good and who's really bad? As would happen in a apocalyptic world.Otherwise it would just be survive or not. But now it's not only survive or not, but at what cost. As a group and individually. With each person having to decide what that cost is. Or for some letting someone decide for them. Much more interesting.When the show ignores incredibly obvious 'survive first' decision making and steers into morality it is forgetting what it is. It is a survival action show with lots of zombie killing. I don't give a crap if the characters have trust issues and operate with or without a moral compass, but I do care if they make obviously stupid decisions that make zero sense for surviving. That makes me too aware that its just a dumb show and they'll fend off the invaders regardless because they are the main characters.
I give an 'A' for the Glenn zombie head stomp though.
From what I have heard about the comics, you better get used to it. I've heard it's a big story line in the comics. Not sure how much of it will make it into the show.Mediocre episode. Rick's zaniness (having visions etc.) is getting very annoying...
I'm not missing that at all, I just thing they've historically done a very poor job at that due to bad acting and bad writing. Therefore I think the show is better when they mostly avoid that and concentrate on action. For example they have no idea what Michone is thinking so they just keep her quiet but effectively play her chess piece as a sword wielding bad-.You are kind of missing half the show. It's not just a zombie survival show, it's also a morality play. And the comparison of the two apocalyptic world views. Which makes it much more realistic and much more interesting/entertaining. It allows not only for character development, but also for character change. How does good become bad, how does bad become good. Good people doing bad things, bad people doing good things. Who's really good and who's really bad? As would happen in a apocalyptic world.Otherwise it would just be survive or not. But now it's not only survive or not, but at what cost. As a group and individually. With each person having to decide what that cost is. Or for some letting someone decide for them. Much more interesting.
Have to completely disagree with everything you said. Sorry.I'm not missing that at all, I just thing they've historically done a very poor job at that due to bad acting and bad writing. Therefore I think the show is better when they mostly avoid that and concentrate on action. For example they have no idea what Michone is thinking so they just keep her quiet but effectively play her chess piece as a sword wielding bad-.
If they really want to go for the morality play they could THINK of something to do with respect to newcomers as opposed to continually debating between only kill, let loose, accept. The fact that they have the exact same debate about everyone who strolls into their group and haven't devised a test or any system for dealing with this tells me the characters/writers aren't really thinking about this. Its kind of moral hazard to keep repeating the same mistake, so you simply can't buy that the characters are truly debating the issue. They (show runners) are just continually re-using it to illustrate that they are all zombie killers. I get it, just need some different spin or thought to make it at all interesting or entertaining.
Hmm, even that they are too dim to write any dialogue for Michone?! Her not disclosing knowing Andrea (latest in long line of no dialogue for her) was inexplicable so they punted.Have to completely disagree with everything you said. Sorry.
I think they could write her dialogue if they wanted her to speak more. They obviously do not. We may understand why she doesn't speak much later?? These same writers are quite capable of writing lots and lots of dialogue for other characters. Kirkman, who has quite a bit of say in this, might prefer her portrayed this way. Maybe something he was not able to do with the confines of comic pages???Hmm, even that they are too dim to write any dialogue for Michone?! Her not disclosing knowing Andrea (latest in long line of no dialogue for her) was inexplicable so they punted.
The best I've ever seen. Hands down. Granted, I can't claim to have seen every show ever produced though. But it is the writing and character development/arcs that make this so different than any other I've ever seen. I give some (probably a lot of) credit to Kirkman for this though.Where would you place the writing and thoughtfulness of WDead plot versus other AMC shows or cable series?
C'mon, you aren't serious. Character development arcs! Describe this arc for Michone. Defend the Lori arc. Or the governor
Or watch Breaking Bad.
Yea, I'm serious, but obviously you can't be.C'mon, you aren't serious. Character development arcs! Describe this arc for Michone. Defend the Lori arc. Or the governor
Or watch Breaking Bad.
I can't see myself interested at all in Mad Men. But who know??? Maybe someday, when I'm completely bored. I really can't see anything about advertising interesting me at all.For me, The Walking Dead is a solid third amongst AMC's shows, behind Mad Men and Breaking Bad, in that order. The Killing was kinda boring but I hear it got pretty good, maybe I'll give it another go since they seemingly renewed it out of nowhere. Couldn't get into Hell on Wheels.
Anyway, if you haven't tried those other two (MM, BB), you really owe it to yourself to try them.
The Walking Dead certainly is well written at times, and I love the dichotomy between the character's morality and their survival, but things can get a little bogged down when it gets too heady. For me the show is best when the tension is high and I'm anxious about what might happen next.
I can't see myself interested at all in Mad Men. But who know??? Maybe someday, when I'm completely bored. I really can't see anything about advertising interesting me at all.
Breaking Bad, yea I probably will get around to taking another look at that. Like I said, I did see a couple episodes of it, but it really didn't do much for me. But people really say it's good, so.....
My daughter swears by Sons of Anarchy, but I haven't watched that either. Maybe someday on that one too.
The morality vs survival is what really entices me about the Walking Dead. And how it demonstrates the good and bad in each person. And that most characters are not "safe".
Agree. Mad Men is about who are we really both in the 'selling yourself' sense and the juxtaposition of 1960's mores versus today's seemingly more advanced society that really isn't all that different.Mad Men, although dealing directly in the advertising industry, is as much a morality play as any other show. The acting and writing of the show is as high a quality as you can get too. It will consistently just blow you out of the water, and it doesn't need guns, meth or zombies to do it. Give it a go.