Oregon and Washington In Big Ten Officially

[Rufus]

About five minutes into the Podcast, they say Washington and Oregon either didn't attend the Friday morning PAC-12 meeting to discuss the Apple TV deal, or they did attend and just flat out told everyone they weren't signing.

 

[jostar1]

 

[Rufus]

Washington finally posted their press conference.......

 

[JeepCSC]

Why? They are in the Big10 and an AAU university. They are who they are and the Big10 admitted them into their club anyway. From reports, they were in discussions since last year so The Big10 hasn’t been worried for awhile now. Will they have opportunities to earn more research dollars in the Big10? Maybe, who knows?

The facts are the Big10 admitted them into the conference with the academic and athletic profile they currently are. If the Big10 had their boxers all twisted up over research dollars, then they would have invited Stanford instead. Maybe with the amount of research dollars UDub spends (1st in PAC and now 2nd in Big10), the Big10 thought that evened out OU.

It’s almost like (gasp) the B10 is an athletic league and has nothing to do with the research-side of the universities.

 

[JeepCSC]

So the Apple deal was only good for 2 years?

 

[jostar1]

 

[dayooper]

It’s almost like (gasp) the B10 is an athletic league and has nothing to do with the research-side of the universities.

I do believe there are schools that just don’t fit the Big10 because of academics. I also believe that the academic bar isn’t what we all think it is. I look at the AAU benchmark. That whole thing was pushed by The Dude of WV.

 

[Ldandy]

So the Apple deal was only good for 2 years?

It might have been 2 years long, but by the way every school with an option got the hell out, it was clear that it was anything but good. The dollars stunk but worse than that these schools would have been practically invisible to prospective recruits.

 

[Rufus]

AAU membership was never a requirement to join the B1G. It's certainly a plus. Fact: When Michigan State joined the B1G, they were NOT in the AAU. They didn't join for another 8 years.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Oregon needs to increase their research spending fast. Last place by A LOT. They could increase five fold and still be low for the B1G.

Part of Oregon’s challenge is that their med school, Oregon Health & Science University, is considered a separate intuition, like the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey before it was merged with Rutgers in 2013.

 

[Rufus]

Part of Oregon’s challenge is that their med school, Oregon Health & Science University, is considered a separate intuition, like the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey before it was merged with Rutgers in 2013.

If that's the case, I expect a merger will happen in Oregon sooner rather than later.

 

[buddy]

AAU membership was never a requirement to join the B1G. It's certainly a plus. Fact: When Michigan State joined the B1G, they were NOT in the AAU. They didn't join for another 8 years.

Also it is clear that AAU membership is based on politics, not merit. How does ND merit AAU membership?

 

[hoopsfan22]

Also it is clear that AAU membership is based on politics, not merit. How does ND merit AAU membership?

It's another good ol' boys club run by the same people that pull the strings in conference realignment.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

It's another good ol' boys club run by the same people that pull the strings in conference realignment.

I’ve wondered that, too. It’s a good academic school, especially undergrad and law, with a rapid alumni network; but it lacks the big research side, such as a medical school, that most AAU schools have. Hence, you note may have a partial truth to it.

 

[dayooper]

I’ve wondered that, too. It’s a good academic school, especially undergrad and law, with a rapid alumni network; but it lacks the big research side, such as a medical school, that most AAU schools have. Hence, you note may have a partial truth to it.

I think there’s some truth to that as well. There are metrics that the AAU used, though. The big one is competitive grants. These are grants the research writes and submits. The grant providers award the research funds to those, based on how they say they would use the money to further the research the grant providers want. Could ND have high metrics there? I don’t know.

 

[Rufus]

Oregon, Washington depart for Big Ten: How the Ducks, Huskies have fared against every new conference opponent

Washington has faced every existing Big Ten member at least once, while Oregon has clashed with all but two

www.cbssports.com

 

[Rufus]

Gene Smith Saw Additions of Oregon and Washington As “Obvious” Move After Big Ten Received “New Money” from Fox

Gene Smith said adding Oregon and Washington “became pretty obvious as something we should do” after Fox “brought new money to the table” to fund them joining the Big Ten.

www.elevenwarriors.com

 

[dayooper]

 

[hoopsfan22]

Just about anywhere is better than Indy.

 

[History Geek]

Just about anywhere is better than Indy.

Disagree. Our indy schedule is better than any we would havevif we were in the MAC, new AAC, etc.

 

[hoopsfan22]

Disagree. Our indy schedule is better than any we would havevif we were in the MAC, new AAC, etc.

LOL I was talking about Indianapolis where the B1G has its CCG.

 

[History Geek]

LOL I was talking about Indianapolis where the B1G has its CCG.

Sorry. I’m a bit testy lately.