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Think about how crazy this situation is. After 95 years of football, people are taking the side of a wide receiver over the owner.
What a take.
Think about how crazy this situation is. After 95 years of football, people are taking the side of a wide receiver over the owner.
I get that’s what people think, but no ceo is ever going to act like that. Owners are always involved. And as far as Giants, the Mara’s know football and only started the giants in the 1920s.
Think about how crazy this situation is. After 95 years of football, people are taking the side of a wide receiver over the owner.
Don’t be so black and white on this issue. Lots of owners meddle lightly on personnel. Little here and there....especially in football.
I've never heard one person say Odell is the best talent the Giants have ever had. They had LT for crissakes the best football player ever to strap on pads, IMO.I don’t have sources. I am just being a message board savage. But, tell me who wrote that and I will tell you if it is Stop or not. When it was written is an issue too.
Obviously, we all know Tisch family likes the marketing of Odell etc. it’s the Mara’s that are the football people.
Odell is legitimately great. I love the talent. Hard to give that up. But old Giants fans like me have seen them win 4 Super Bowls and plenty of playoff appearances.
People act like Odell was their best talent. I think Barkley is best talent, and best back I saw in college since Barry Sanders. So, that might be just me jumping on the bandwagon.
They had LT and Strahan and plaxico and a young Eli. They have had plenty of superstars.
They will have stars again. Beckham is 5 years left in his career at this level. I think the giants will survive.
Get a QB, a pass rusher and I would like an OT that starts at RT and moves to LT when we cut Solder.
The Giants only have one more “star player” and he’ll be worn out and worthless in three years. Sad times to be a Giants fan.How many star players does Gettleman have to drive away as a GM before he stops getting a pass? We're at at least 4 already, does he need to get to 5?
That's my point, I'm not working for an owner who's telling me who stays and who goes. Maybe it's because I've seen decades of it fail as a Knicks fan, but it's just not a formula that worksAnd then you are fired. Guys, this world is far more nuisanced.
The Knicks are an extreme example of what can go wrong. Lots of other organizations have owners involved with a light touch and are not nearly as disasterous. Of course owners should remain as removed as possible, but there are very few that really can and will stay completely out of the way.... especially in football.That's my point, I'm not working for an owner who's telling me who stays and who goes. Maybe it's because I've seen decades of it fail as a Knicks fan, but it's just not a formula that works
I think we mostly agree on this, I don't have a problem with an owner being involved and in the room for discussions. I just don't like an owner saying this guy stays, this guy goes.The Knicks are an extreme example of what can go wrong. Lots of other organizations have owners involved with a light touch and are not nearly as disasterous. Of course owners should remain as removed as possible, but there are very few that really can and will stay completely out of the way.... especially in football.
And it’s easy to take a hard line on this issue now, but I am rather certain in most circumstances a GM would not. GM jobs don’t fall out of the sky.
Well all signs point to Eli staying for 2019...at least that is what most media insiders seem to think. The Giants save 5MM by cutting him, but I dont think their are enough available free agents of interest to Gettleman to find a use for the savings..so what's the point. And I am not saying I agree with that POV, just reading the tea leaves about how the Giants seem to be approaching free agency.
The real debate that has to be raging in the front office at this time is how hard to go after Josh Rosen.
Problem with Eli is he will probably lead them to 5-11 - 6-10 again.
Tank for Tua.They need to tank and tank hard. No more fooling around in the 6-10 pick range. Go for number 1 if they don't nab a QB this year.
Also, thanks guys for letting me hit up your board like this. Love the sports talk.
There's the big move
There's the big move
They really are the Knicks, they've got to be the worst run franchise in the NFL.Any chance you can get to commit $37.5M ($23M guaranteed) to a 30 year old WR on a rebuilding team, you just have to do it.
They better take a f&$#& quarterback now. This is madnessAny chance you can get to commit $37.5M ($23M guaranteed) to a 30 year old WR on a rebuilding team, you just have to do it.