"Hearing that the #UNC Notice of Allegations will be released Thursday morning"

[CallMeBruce]

And here's the response to all of the "any students could have taken those courses" crowd:

Although the general student body also had access to the anomalous AFRI/AFAM courses, student-athletes received preferential access to these anomalous courses, enrolled in these anomalous courses at a disproportionate rate to that of the general student body and received other impermissible benefits not available to the general student body in connection with these courses.

 

[UConnSwag11]

And vacate it the year after. (JK I am sure they are pure as virgin snow at this point) I am however still curious about Quse's lone NC- they were dirty as a Thai prostitute when they won.

They negotiated to have the punishment start after their nc

 

[UConn990411]

Hopefully this will quiet the crowd that thinks UNC will only get a slap on the wrist.

The evidence is so bad - and so public - that the NCAA has no choice but to punish them. And contrary to Penn State, UNC won't have the threat of legal action up its sleeve.

 

[Brochacho]

I think multiple postseason bans and years of scholarship loss are in order.

EDIT: Some history is also going to go"poof"

 

[CTBasketball]

I smell death penalty, but its too good to be true.

 

[upstater]

Hopefully this will quiet the crowd that thinks UNC will only get a slap on the wrist.

The evidence is so bad - and so public - that the NCAA has no choice but to punish them. And contrary to Penn State, UNC won't have the threat of legal action up its sleeve.

The only reason PSU was overturned was because the NCAA wanted $60 million from PSU. It overreached and brought the case into the courts.

 

[gwhuskyfan]

Dennis Dodd ‏@dennisdoddcbs 4m4 minutes ago
Told that while language in UNC is using new penalty (more punitive) structure, UNC will be penalized with more lenient (old penalty struc)

Anyone able to explain differences in punishment structure?

 

[CTBasketball]

On the UNC Basketball board, they said a writer/media guy David Glenn has an inside source saying the basketball program will not be receiving any punishment. It's all football and women's basketball.

Take that with a grain of salt and whisper from Cheif though..

 

[Letsgohuskies11]

This is an example of the absurdity of the boneyard. Everyone complained that Cuse got banned this year because they were not going to win it and not in the future, but people want UNC banned this year because they are good.

If it does not fit perfectly into people's needs and views here they think its a conspiracy or the NCAA has an agenda.

no people complained about Cuse because the season was already over and they took advantage of knowing they wouldn't make the tournament. UNC could have an injury next year that prevents them from making a big splash in the tournament.

 

[selles]

Dennis Dodd ‏@dennisdoddcbs 4m4 minutes ago
Told that while language in UNC is using new penalty (more punitive) structure, UNC will be penalized with more lenient (old penalty struc)

Of course, because anyone with the most minuscule concept fairness and decency knows that it's wrong to apply punishments adopted after the crime in question was committed. It's just like when we had our APR problem and...oh wait, never mind.

 

[UConn Dan]

Dennis Dodd ‏@dennisdoddcbs 4m4 minutes ago
Told that while language in UNC is using new penalty (more punitive) structure, UNC will be penalized with more lenient (old penalty struc)

Anyone able to explain differences in punishment structure?

If new structure were used:

 

[gwhuskyfan]

Thanks. Just saw him follow up with this :

Bryan Fischer ‏@BryanDFischer 5m5 minutes ago
UNC penalties could still approach or exceed that in various ways. Old structure allows COI to be a bit more creative. More unknown now.

 

[UConn Dan]

 

[Santini35]

As more people poor over and comment on this, the more I think MBB and Fball are going to skate on this....

 

[Jerry1714]

As more people poor over and comment on this, the more I think MBB and Fball are going to skate on this....

What are you talking about?

 

[Santini35]

What are you talking about?

Maybe i'm mis-interpreting things, but seems like WBB is whats really going to get hit and MBB and FB arent as badly

 

[CallMeBruce]

What are you talking about?

Is it even worth asking? Everyone who makes no effort to learn anything about this is going to say that they won't be punished. It's easier to say that and complain than to put in the work required to be reasonably educated on it.

 

[Jerry1714]

no people complained about Cuse because the season was already over and they took advantage of knowing they wouldn't make the tournament. UNC could have an injury next year that prevents them from making a big splash in the tournament.

Do you have any clue what you are talking about?

They announced the post season ban on February 4th, how was the season over? They were 15-7 and 5-3 in the ACC.

 

[CL82]

This is an example of the absurdity of the boneyard. Everyone complained that Cuse got banned this year because they were not going to win it and not in the future, but people want UNC banned this year because they are good.

If it does not fit perfectly into people's needs and views here they think its a conspiracy or the NCAA has an agenda.

Conspiracy Kitty says:
How long has the NCAA been paying you to carry their water on this board "Jerry?"
(I'll bet Jerry's not even his real name.)

 

[housekeys]

The severity of allegations are meaningless, really. The real question is what kind of punishment will UConn receive?

I am only half-kidding.

 

[Jimdish255]

Will the penalty be based upon the structure that was current at the time of the violations or will it be un-retroactively lessened or exactly the opposite of our APR sanctions.

 

[jfuchs91]

Reading through it, it seems like it's only Level I violations. Am I reading that right?

Here's the NCAA definition of Level I violations:

Level I: Severe breach of conduct

Violations that seriously undermine or threaten the integrity of the NCAA collegiate model as set forth in the Constitution and bylaws, including any violation that provides or is intended to provide a substantial or extensive recruiting, competitive or other advantage, or a substantial or extensive impermissible benefit.

Examples of violations

Level I

• Lack of institutional control.
• Academic fraud.
• Failure to cooperate in an NCAA enforcement investigation.
• Individual unethical or dishonest conduct.
• Head coach responsibility violation by a head coach resulting from an underlying Level I violation by an individual within the sport program.

Level I violations are the most severe violations under the NCAA's penalty structure.

It appears that a number of UNC's athletic programs took advantage of the anomalous classes. Hopefully the NCAA doesn't try to make this exclusively a women's basketball and football case, as some have indicated. Seven members of UNC's 2005 men's basketball championship team majored in African-American studies. (Note: If that 2005 title gets vacated, UConn will have as many official men's basketball championships as North Carolina)

It's tough to say what will happen in any NCAA case given that they're an incompetent and inconsistent organization. That fact very well may be exacerbated by the fact that North Carolina is a Golden Goose of the NCAA. Many may try to argue that "everyone does it," but UNC violated the ultimate rule of cheating: don't get caught. I don't see any way the NCAA can get out of punishing North Carolina severely.

 

[UConn Dan]

Will the penalty be based upon the structure that was current at the time of the violations or will it be un-retroactively lessened or exactly the opposite of our APR sanctions.

The NCAA COI has a choice on which penalty structure to use because the infractions occurred in old structure. Surprise, surprise the COI chose the older more lenient penalty structure because f@$& UConn

What I've read so far, I concur with @Santini35 that WBB will feel the most paint, however MBB and Football will not get off completely, but you know fack UConn

 

[CallMeBruce]

Embroiled in lawsuits from players they don't want to consider employees, the NCAA has to make absolutely clear here that they do not tolerate schools providing a substandard education to its student-athletes for the purpose of keeping them eligible for athletics. That eviscerates the contention that the NCAA's members schools are giving fair value to student-athletes by providing them with scholarships. If they don't hammer UNC for this, it will be used to show that the NCAA tolerates not educating athletes, which basically guarantees a judgment against them.

 

[Sky ball]

No worries..I think UConn will only lose 1, maybe 2, schollies due to the UNC scandal.