Ever Seen a Play Reviewed, Called on the Field and then Reversed a couple minutes later?

[politics]

Dip, hit, lift. Aim with head, then turn shoulder at last second. Technique was being taught in 1970s. Love Mitchell, but everyone should know by now you can't make any kind, i repeat, any kind, of helmet-to-helmet contact no matter how slight or benign. Yes, the double-review had 72 US-USSR Olympics written all over it. Don't give them a reason.

 

[NEforceUConn]

I called into my local Greensboro 93.7 FM sports radio show and asked them if they knew about this review the review situation. First off they were surprised I was a UConn fan living in Greensboro, They hadn't heard about this situation, but the host said if it happened the way I described it then UConn got abused.

Host did say that back in 2015 Duke fb had a controversy against Miami where they lost. Looking it up online the refs and the review refs missed several illegal plays involved in Miami's last TD play. Swofford suspended refs and review official with newspaper reporting:

In a statement announcing the suspension of the on-field crew, the replay official and the communicator, Commissioner John Swofford said that final play "was not handled appropriately."

Yes this is totally different from our "review the reviewer" situation, but I guess I was pleased that the ACC oriented host immediately said UConn most likely got screwed, but if didn't affect the game outcome.

UConn somehow has to get this out in the mainstream media.

 

[McLovin]

This looks like the sort of contact the refs have been calling...

He was a little high and got the QB face mask. Didn’t have a problem with it being roughing the passer. Just wasn’t targeting.

 

[CONN78SEJ]

I called into my local Greensboro 93.7 FM sports radio show and asked them if they knew about this review the review situation. First off they were surprised I was a UConn fan living in Greensboro, They hadn't heard about this situation, but the host said if it happened the way I described it then UConn got abused.

Host did say that back in 2015 Duke fb had a controversy against Miami where they lost. Looking it up online the refs and the review refs missed several illegal plays involved in Miami's last TD play. Swofford suspended refs and review official with newspaper reporting:

In a statement announcing the suspension of the on-field crew, the replay official and the communicator, Commissioner John Swofford said that final play "was not handled appropriately."

Yes this is totally different from our "review the reviewer" situation, but I guess I was pleased that the ACC oriented host immediately said UConn most likely got screwed, but if didn't affect the game outcome.

UConn somehow has to get this out in the mainstream media.

When Swofford left was when the ACC became ripe for the picking.

 

[Fairfield_1st]

Very similar hit in the Steeler game Sunday night. Called roughing but not targeting. Terry McCauley, a former official and the go to guy for the broadcast, said it was not roughing. McCauley comes on at 0:46 mark.

 

[Classof87]

You think the NCAA cares that much about independent UConn?

No, that’s why I said “I wish” LOL

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

How about Roberson getting hit the exact same last game and it being roughing not targeting?!

 

[Nostical]

While that ACC review of a review was suspect in many ways, the good news is that Mitchell‘s frustration from the Duke targeting call was meted out in a superior effort vs Utah St. providing scouts with a lot more great looking film to help evaluate his draft status.

 

[Classof87]

You think the NCAA cares that much about independent UConn?

Not sure if it is up to the NCAA to assign ref crews?

 

[Tdaley]

In the Utah State v Fresno State game Friday night a Utah State defensive player lowered his helmet and hit a Fresno State wide receiver in the head with the crown of his helmet while the Fresno State player was being tackled by a third player. TEXT BOOK Targeting. There was no call by the referees nor any mention by the two tv announcers at first. The Fresno State wide receiver was hurt on the play so there was a timeout and they went to a TV break. When the game came back on the announcers showed the replay of play and at that point they both agree it look like targeting. The play was never reviewed by the referees despite having plenty of time to do so. I don't know how someone who's job is to look for plays to review could possibly miss the play. The game was played in Utah.

 

[KryHavok]

Not to say that I buy into conspiracies (or maybe I do), but USU vs. Fresno State is a game of MWC teams, so no clear advantage to call the play (haven't seen it, so I'm taking @Tdaley at his word). In the UConn game, MWC refs looked to protect their own against the non-MWC UConn, even if it was for a less egregious play. We're on no man's land with no one to advocate on our behalf.

 

[UCan3]

Not to say that I buy into conspiracies (or maybe I do), but USU vs. Fresno State is a game of MWC teams, so no clear advantage to call the play (haven't seen it, so I'm taking @Tdaley at his word). In the UConn game, MWC refs looked to protect their own against the non-MWC UConn, even if it was for a less egregious play. We're on no man's land with no one to advocate on our behalf.

Agreed.

I don’t think that as fans here we spend nearly as much time griping about calls as other D 1 teams. With that being said, it wasn’t until last game where I thought - heck this is a fairly well called game. And yes, when we were down 14-0 and I also thought that.

Right now, there must be some incentive for refs who are all non-tenured and counting on teams to hire them, to tilt the game towards the conference(s) that have the potential to rehire them for the remainder of the season/future ones.

The calls are so bad like the one in question here that it takes away from the game - it really does. I say scratch Duke and ACC for foreseeable future - there are plenty of other teams out there.

 

[Fairfield_1st]

Did we ever get anything official from the ACC regarding what happened and why? They owe us that much.

 

[Palatine]

ARTICLE 4. No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting. When in question, it is a foul. ...

Note 1: "Targeting" means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball. Some indications of targeting (emphasis NCAA's) include but are not limited to:

• Launch-a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area
• A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground
• Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area
• Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet

Note 2: Defenseless player (Rule 2-27-14). When in question, a player is defenseless. Examples of defenseless players include but are not limited to:

• A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass
• A receiver attempting to catch a forward pass or in position to receive a backward pass, or one who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier
• A kicker in the act of or just after kicking a ball, or during the kick or the return
• A kick returner attempting to catch or recover a kick, or one who has completed a catch or recovery and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier
• A player on the ground
• A player obviously out of the play
• A player who receives a blind-side block
• A ball carrier already in the grasp of an opponent and whose forward progress has been stopped
• A quarterback any time after a change of possession a ball carrier who has obviously given himself up and is sliding feet first"