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shizzle787

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If the league still has Stanford and Cal and is getting 12-15 million per year?
 
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If they are desperate and we get a football only invite of course take it. Even if they get turned into a G5 league and the offer is only 3 million a year, take the football only invite without question. 3 million would blow away the 500K we currently receive and there would be quality opponents in that league.
 
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No!!! We can schedule some football games with the Pac 12 remnants.

Not in October and November we wouldn't be able to schedule them as they will be in league play like everyone else.

The PAC will easily be the best G5 league. If a football only offer comes from them (it probably won't come) it's a no brainer to take it while we wait and hope for something better to come along.
 

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Not only do we not accept a P-12 invitation, we also don't accept an arrangement where we and Gonzaga create one member (Zags for all but football, us only football, BE for all other sports). There is no way the potential few additional dollars could offset the travel costs.

If this (B-12 expansion) is over, we have one remaining path to where we want to be. We need our football program to develop to where we can (in a few years) get a bid in the expanded CFP and then make a solid run in those playoffs. We have to accept that we will need to endure at least one year of getting overlooked for the playoffs while being more deserving than a few who make it before we will get an invitation and obviously getting any further than the final four will never be realistic as an independent without Notre Dame's legacy or resources, but this is how we'll achieve the consideration we want.
 
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Not only do we not accept a P-12 invitation, we also don't accept an arrangement where we and Gonzaga create one member (Zags for all but football, us only football, BE for all other sports). There is no way the potential few additional dollars could offset the travel costs.

If this (B-12 expansion) is over, we have one remaining path to where we want to be. We need our football program to develop to where we can (in a few years) get a bid in the expanded CFP and then make a solid run in those playoffs. We have to accept that we will need to endure at least one year of getting overlooked for the playoffs while being more deserving than a few who make it before we will get an invitation and obviously getting any further than the final four will never be realistic as an independent without Notre Dame's legacy or resources, but this is how we'll achieve the consideration we want.

LOL, you are living in a fantasy land if you think we can make the playoffs as an independent. We can barely put together a full schedule of random G5 garbage.
 
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Not gonna happen. New Pac will probably add SDSU, SMU, Boise, Colorado State, maybe UNLV. Eventually we will join the leftovers of the ACC once they get raided by the big 3 conferences. The Big East might merge with the ACC at that point and it will take on a few AAC schools like Memphis, Tulane, USF, and ECU. This is our fate.
 

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If they add the best remaining parts of the AAC (Tulane, SMU), SDSU, and then put us in there as football only with Gonzaga all sports, then paid us $8 million or whatever to be on Apple TV I don’t see why we wouldn’t go for awhile. Assuredly the travel will cost a lot but frankly we are flying around for our 6 road games anyway

For me, part of it depends on who they bring in. You still want to be able to recruit Texas for example
 

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LOL, you are living in a fantasy land if you think we can make the playoffs as an independent. We can barely put together a full schedule of random G5 garbage.
1 - while we aren't there yet, if we were to run the table with this upcoming season's schedule we'd be ranked ~7-8 at the time they'd select schools for a 12 school playoff.

2 - when I was in my mid 20's (specifically, shortly before we hired Jim Calhoun) they idea of our men's basketball program making it to a final four (much less winning multiple titles) was more far fetched than the idea of our 2023 football team going unbeaten prior to bowl season.

3 - what are our other paths to where we want to be? Do we just give up? Everything worth accomplishing is difficult. If everyone looked at something and said "it's a fantasy to think you can accomplish this" we'd still be living in caves wearing animal skins.
 
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If/when Clemson, FSU and Miami bolt for football, what's to stop the Big East from just merging with the ACC?
 

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If/when Clemson, FSU and Miami bolt for football, what's to stop the Big East from just merging with the ACC?
More than 90% of the Big East doesn't play football at this level.
 

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If/when Clemson, FSU and Miami bolt for football, what's to stop the Big East from just merging with the ACC?
Based on how the Big 12 thing went down, it appears nobody cares about basketball beyond us and Kansas fans
 
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More than 90% of the Big East doesn't play football at this level.
If the big players in ACC leave though, nobody is really going to care about ACC football anymore. It is now a basketball conference maybe equal to the Big East, but really only with Duke and UNC having any recent relevance. The rest are teams trying to regain relevance in basketball with middling football teams.
 
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What if the Pac 12 football conference included Tulane, USF, SMU and UConn, as well as the western universities.
 
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Seeing as the Big 12 is dead for us. Would Stanford and Cal try to join as football only members in the ACC, all other sports do WCC. Then when ACC blows up those 2 plus ND can just move to the BIG as a nice happy package. In this scenario, we would be left behind again too.....
 
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A football only works

Assuming the PAC-12 still maintains the College Football Playoff eligibility, sure, why not? Maintaining a Big East BBall schedule is better than what's transpiring with the Big-12 adding the corner teams anyway.
 

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