Dennis Dodd: Big Ten expansion not done...stay tuned

[GopherHawk]

I don't see how a B12 or ACC team could be a candidate until after 2022. The SEC doesn't have a GOR yet. Contiguous is fairly important. We don't want outliers like WVU is in the B12

 

[MilliniumPrince]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...est-of-college-footballs-preseason-media-days

Big Ten expansion: It isn't done. That's about all I can say. Hint: The conference will begin negotiating on a new TV deal next year. The current contract expires in 2016. Definitely stay tuned.

Sounds like he has a source to me. But who knows who they would target?

 

[husky91]

Also, did he Tweet this and did he reply to anyone?

I think Mizzou is a possibility, no GOR, much better cultural fit, natural rivalry with Ill. UConn could be the sister if they want more east coast presence and require it executes certain milestones like planned stadium expansion, etc.

Sounds like he has a source to me. But who knows who they would target?

 

[Exit 4]

I don't see how a B12 or ACC team could be a candidate until after 2022. The SEC doesn't have a GOR yet. Contiguous is fairly important. We don't want outliers like WVU is in the B12

I do agree on the contigous market is important.

 

[Exit 4]

I don't see how a B12 or ACC team could be a candidate until after 2022. The SEC doesn't have a GOR yet. Contiguous is fairly important. We don't want outliers like WVU is in the B12

I didnt know that about the SEC. Mizzu it is!

 

[Husky92]

Doesn't take much to spin y'all out of control.

Nope. It doesn't.

 

[CTMike]

I fully expect a come to Jesus moment for the B1G about 30 seconds into negotiations regarding NYC subscribers.

Delaney: "Wait a minute. You're telling me no one in NYC gives a about Rutgers anything? Alright screw the recruiting area and AAU, let's grab UConn"

The thing of it is- we are working hard towards AAU, and as far as recruiting - no, we aren't a gold mine, but a little bit of time and investment in local programs would pay back dividends for years. There's nothing special about, say, NJ recruiting grounds. We can be just as viable if someone has the vision.

 

[TKs]

I think the hint is refering to "TV Markets". Mizzu (AAU, no GOR) St. Louis Market. UConn (AAU soon?) NYC Market. Think B1G or Go Home!

 

[Fishy]

Somewhere in the midwest, a mild-mannered man is leaping into a phone booth to change into his Frank the Tank costume so that he can try to stomp out this ray of hope by pointing out that Stony Brook is really the best way for the Big Ten to expand into the northeast.

 

[noeynox]

You know that scene in casino where Joe pesci is watching his kid brother get pummeled with a bat by frankie? We are Joe pesci, frank the tank is frankie, and any hope of us getting into the big ten is the kid brother. At least that is the image that pops in my head everytime frank posts on the topic. Love ya frank.

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[GopherHawk]

There are three types of invites.

1) sure things - these are national brands which are no brainers. Penn State and Nebraska were these adds for the B1G.

2) traditional schools in very good markets. I think UMd fit this model. Not a sure thing, but really as close as you come.

3) great market with potential - I think this is Rutgers. I believe the B1G thinks with its presence Rutgers can grow.

Now any new invite must add enough value to feed themselves. They must also have recruits for football and basketball. Need to be prestigious acedemically.

I think UConn is somewhere between two and three. Upside if surrounded by good schools. Good market. Good academics. Poor recruiting area. Can you add enough value to pay your own way? We are not talking $20M worth of value, but $35M+ worh of value. That's a big number. Don't point to others already in the club and say I am worth more then them either. That arguement won't get you anywhere.

I don't know if a UConn/Mizzu combo adds $70M+ to the contract unless UConn is needed for NYC. Then you are 15 and we need to find number 16.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

The thing of it is- we are working hard towards AAU, and as far as recruiting - no, we aren't a gold mine, but a little bit of time and investment in local programs would pay back dividends for years. There's nothing special about, say, NJ recruiting grounds. We can be just as viable if someone has the vision.

This recruiting issue is a non-starter.
If NJ is good recruiting and eastern Pa is good recruiting than how geographically challenged do you have to be to realize these areas are a 2 to 5 hours drive from CT.
The parents of a PA kid recruited by Mich
Can see their kid play away games at 3 different schools.

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[Gurleyman]

Somewhere in the midwest, a mild-mannered man is leaping into a phone booth to change into his Frank the Tank costume so that he can try to stomp out this ray of hope by pointing out that Stony Brook is really the best way for the Big Ten to expand into the northeast.

Easy case to make. Stony Brook has a train station on campus that takes you to NYC. That's crucial in the event the internet/email goes down and you need to deliver news to the New York media market by hand.

Plus, being on the East end of Long Island, Stony Brook can carry the pivotal humpback whale market.

 

[Adios]

There are three types of invites.

1) sure things - these are national brands which are no brainers. Penn State and Nebraska were these adds for the B1G.

2) traditional schools in very good markets. I think UMd fit this model. Not a sure thing, but really as close as you come.

3) great market with potential - I think this is Rutgers. I believe the B1G thinks with its presence Rutgers can grow.

Now any new invite must add enough value to feed themselves. They must also have recruits for football and basketball. Need to be prestigious acedemically.

I think UConn is somewhere between two and three. Upside if surrounded by good schools. Good market. Good academics. Poor recruiting area. Can you add enough value to pay your own way? We are not talking $20M worth of value, but $35M+ worh of value. That's a big number. Don't point to others already in the club and say I am worth more then them either. That arguement won't get you anywhere.

I don't know if a UConn/Mizzu combo adds $70M+ to the contract unless UConn is needed for NYC. Then you are 15 and we need to find number 16.

Yale used to and still does recruit nationally for football. With the CIC/B1G affiliation that puts us behind the Ivy League, recruiting should not even be an issue.


We are between 2 and 3, working towards 2. UConn is here to stay. Took longer than other schools to develop because of affluence and the stronger desire for private schools before.

 

[CTMike]

This recruiting issue is a non-starter.
If NJ is good recruiting and eastern Pa is good recruiting than how geographically challenged do you have to be to realize these areas are a 2 to 5 hours drive from CT.
The parents of a PA kid recruited by Mich
Can see their kid play away games at 3 different schools.

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I agree. I think the supposed "lack of fertile recruiting" issue is crap, frankly.

 

[pj]

There are 34 million people in New England and New York. That's plenty of high school athletes, and only 3 BCS level schools. If the B1G comes to New England, high school football will develop here.

I'm not saying recruiting is going to be a positive, it's not. But UConn won't be totally uncompetitive either, even if we're forced to draw recruits from our own region.

 

[Limbo Land]

Don't get to excited... could be about UCF, USF and BYU getting invites with Cincy to Big 12. Keep Focused and get ducks in order for possible B1G invite. The only place we want to be is with these top notch schools.

 

[yazsir]

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[BoatShow]

I don't know how important contiguous is when the area separating NJ and CT is NYC.

 

[Adios]

I don't know how important contiguous is when the area separating NJ and CT is NYC.

No one cares about that except posters here. From our own fanbase.

 

[woomba]

This recruiting issue is a non-starter.
If NJ is good recruiting and eastern Pa is good recruiting than how geographically challenged do you have to be to realize these areas are a 2 to 5 hours drive from CT.
The parents of a PA kid recruited by Mich
Can see their kid play away games at 3 different schools.

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NJ and PA Football recruiting blows NY and NE recruiting out of the water - look at the number of prospects that come out of those states on an annual basis.

This comes into play for Big Ten schools wanting an easier sell for OOS athletes to come play at a Big Ten school, not pleasing their parents who want the opportunity to add 2 easy road trips.

 

[woomba]

There are 34 million people in New England and New York. That's plenty of high school athletes, and only 3 BCS level schools. If the B1G comes to New England, high school football will develop here.

I'm not saying recruiting is going to be a positive, it's not. But UConn won't be totally uncompetitive either, even if we're forced to draw recruits from our own region.

Even if you look at UConn, Syracuse, and BC's recruiting over the past 5-6 years you see that only about half of the FB recruits for these teams are from the NY&NE area (even less for BC) despite there being 34M people there. That's not "plenty of HS athletes".

UConn has potential but you're better off just not mentioning recruiting grounds - it only compares semi-favorably to Kansas (and they'll argue that they draw MO similarly to how UConn will count NY&MA)

 

[spsct]

Population means squat when considering recruiting grounds. It is the HS football culture and development that counts, which is why states with similar populations as Connecticut (say Oklahoma and South Carolina) have 7x as many FBS signees.

I wonder how long it would take, if the football culture in New England became the same as NJ tomorrow, before the number of recruits approached equality.

 

[CTMike]

We're at a point in our football program where players/recruits have grown up knowing that UConn plays big-time football, and grown up wanting to play for their state school. That wasn't quite the case even 2 recruiting seasons ago. They also see that UConn has a strong track record on getting guys to the NFL.

It's taken 10 years, but I think it has started to change the football culture at the lower levels. There's something real, tangible, and close to aspire to.

Keep developing it. Hypothetically, let's say UConn get's the B1G invite. Do you think that will generate more or less interest? I don't think CT is quite the recruiting wasteland people make it to be, but with a chance, it'll only continue to improve.

 

[RegisteredUconn]

Even if you look at UConn, Syracuse, and BC's recruiting over the past 5-6 years you see that only about half of the FB recruits for these teams are from the NY&NE area...

Did a quick look at the Penn State and Michigan rosters for the upcoming season. Both have about 37% in-state.