Wbbfan1
And That’s The Way It Is
- Joined
- Aug 26, 2011
- Messages
- 9,164
- Reaction Score
- 17,443
I guess it is where you came from as to how you read Staley's "story". I'm not much of a Dawn supporter or follower--I'm not much into speaking to kids/college women with 4 letter words--yes naive is my middle name. I was naive when after years in Conn industry I entered the Federal employment program. One Female Administrator said it properly In Boston your enemies stab you in the back, in DC your friends stab you in the chest. So to survive you close your arms across your chest and let NO ONE in. If you are up for promotion you keep it quiet. So when I open up, some times on the Boneyard --it's difficult, unfamiliar. Dawn having lived in the tough neighborhoods and competed against those that have she learned early to survive. I didn't really care much for Dawn--but this makes me more compassionate. USC HAS had good to great success under her leadership--we can give her that. She wants to compete, play and beat the leader of WBB and to learn USA BB from Geno--this is honoring the success and abilities of the UConn program. Self serving, maybe, but for people like Dawn and me to be that open--it offers respect to those to whom we are open. Intelligence isn't about being stubborn, or dogmatic, or unbending--really intelligent people are open to changes and new ideas. Can you believe Einstein achieved what he did with a closed mind???Geez what a bunch of, shameless, self-aggrandizing recruiting pandering. "I am a great coach" by Dawn Staley has a bit of the GG "dynasty" ring to it.
When you come from where Dawn started you HAVE to be a bit over the top to be noticed. She's said it "I'm a great coach!". I'm sure everyone she recruits believes it--yes time will tell, but n the mean time she and her team believes it. She didn't grow up in Bristol,or Waterbury or Cheshire she grew up in a less staid environment--where you announced your greatness (even if it were not true).Geez what a bunch of, shameless, self-aggrandizing recruiting pandering. "I am a great coach" by Dawn Staley has a bit of the GG "dynasty" ring to it.
It's off-putting to me. If it's true, other people will say it. And if you're going to say it yourself (because of where you grew up - ??), at least win something first.When you come from where Dawn started you HAVE to be a bit over the top to be noticed. She's said it "I'm a great coach!". I'm sure everyone she recruits believes it--yes time will tell, but n the mean time she and her team believes it. She didn't grow up in Bristol,or Waterbury or Cheshire she grew up in a less staid environment--where you announced your greatness (even if it were not true).
I didn't think he had to say that. But at least he IS the best in the world. If it's OK for Dawn to say she's a great coach, at least she ought to demonstrate some coaching greatness first.I strongly prefer what Maya wrote!
Last night, LeBron said he had confidence that the Cavs would win the next 2 games, because "I'm the best player in the world." I just can't imagine Jordan saying it that way.
I sense a lack of humility.
The one place where I disagree with her was when she said she gets a thought and then tells her players (without a filter). I suppose that is why the microphones have caught so many f... bombs. I believe you can have your players trust you, be effective, and still have a filter.
In fact, with some minor and inconsequential changes in particulars, had Geno written these very words earlier in his career he would have been roundly applauded for it by virtually every poster on this board, including the OP.Sounds exactly like Geno. Probably has less of a filter than Dawn. And yes, he drops bomb.
Maybe/maybe not. Not sure if not having been a championship player, which would thereby have allowed him to "connect" with his players, is an "inconsequential change in particulars". But that's academic. What we do know for sure is that he didn't publish something like this.In fact, with some minor and inconsequential changes in particulars, had Geno written these very words earlier in his career he would have been roundly applauded for it by virtually every poster on this board, including the OP.
OK, point taken, though as others have suggested, the piece was probably the product of some publicist's pen more than really from Dawn. But that, too, is academic....she no doubt approved it. I just think that we Boneyarders tend to be very quick to denigrate rival coaches and their public utterances when our own favorite coach, God love him, is about as brash as they come. To be fair, Dawn, who ain't never gonna be accused of being no shrinking violet, did take a dormant program and, pretty much single-handedly, put it prominently on the map. As a result, fan interest there is literally through the roof. WCBB needs much more of that, and we all, in my opinion, ought to err more on the side of giving credit where it's due, however reluctantly!Maybe/maybe not. Not sure if not having been a championship player, which would thereby have allowed him to "connect" with his players, is an "inconsequential change in particulars". But that's academic. What we do know for sure is that he didn't publish something like this.
While Geno was interviewed on the ESPN set after the win over ND, Kevin Negandhi observed that Geno seemed uncomfortable with the comparisons to Wooden or even considering himself among the pantheon of great coaches. Geno said "where we come from (Philadelphia), if you're any good you don't have to say it, other people say it for you. The guys in our neighborhood who go around telling you how good they are don't last very long."
So, no, I don't think Geno would have ever penned a piece like this. That's not to say he didn't talk confidently in selling his program to recruits. It's just a difference in style.
Dawn's article is a recruiting puff-piece. The intended audience is recruits and their families and this is just another opportunity to sell herself and her program.
While Geno was interviewed on the ESPN set after the win over ND, Kevin Negandhi observed that Geno seemed uncomfortable with the comparisons to Wooden or even considering himself among the pantheon of great coaches. Geno said "where we come from (Philadelphia), if you're any good you don't have to say it, other people say it for you. The guys in our neighborhood who go around telling you how good they are don't last very long."
So, no, I don't think Geno would have ever penned a piece like this. Dawn's article is a recruiting puff-piece. It's quite possible you are correct in this opinion regarding Geno but the women's basketball world is in a slightly different place now. When Geno was in the early years of his ascent, the national profile of women's basketball, small as it is today relative to other sports, was considerably smaller then it is now. Just by virtue of being able to challenge Tennessee for dominance, Connecticut was placed on center stage and for a few years, the most sought after recruits really had only two premier programs to choose from.
Fast forward to today - although Connecticut is clearly dominant during the recent past and looking forward to next year (and hopefully beyond!) , overall the number of very good programs has increased considerably - Tennessee, Stanford, Notre Dame, Maryland, Baylor and most recently South Carolina. Staley is competing for recruits against several schools so if this kind of article helps, more power to her. Recruiting is, after all, one of the two most critical components of her job.
The intended audience is recruits and their families and this is just another opportunity to sell herself and her program.