- Joined
- Aug 17, 2011
- Messages
- 9,027
- Reaction Score
- 39,042
Correct that he is incorrectCorrect that he's incorrect, or correct that we are actually recruiting him again?
Correct that he is incorrectCorrect that he's incorrect, or correct that we are actually recruiting him again?
Depends on the verbiage of the contract but I doubt it. Obviously they won't make any new money or finish out the contract, but I doubt they're paying back money already madeWhen a player decomits do they lose whatever NIL money they got when they signed?
When a player decomits do they lose whatever NIL money they got when they signed?
It's been a long time since I looked at it but I think NIL cannot be contingent upon playing for a specific school. it could have a "termination at will" provision though, which would effectively work the same way.Depends on the verbiage of the contract but I doubt it. Obviously they won't make any new money or finish out the contract, but I doubt they're paying back money already made
Very possibly wrong, but my assumption is these are structured such that the players aren’t actually getting paid until they’re on campus. Too much likelihood of this happening or abuse.Depends on the verbiage of the contract but I doubt it. Obviously they won't make any new money or finish out the contract, but I doubt they're paying back money already made
Yes, there will be a lot of Razorback players wearing shirts with Tyson on the front and Wal-Mart on the back.Guess he was not as impressed with Kentucky’s press conference as Kentucky was.
We can definitely use him - he’s really freaking good - but I’d be surprised if a) he considers us given that Arkansas is gonna give him all the chicken man’s money and 2) that DH would want to try pairing two freshmen point guards. Feels like one of those kinds of players that we typically do not get.
I don’t think that NCAA rules regulate how players get paid by collectives, businesses and fans at all. All a question of what each individual deal is and what the parties negotiate.Very possibly wrong, but my assumption is these are structured such that the players aren’t actually getting paid until they’re on campus. Too much likelihood of this happening or abuse.
If it was as simple as money, why has Arkansas been so bad? Tyson is privately owned and can do what they want, but Walmart is a publicly traded company with shareholders to answer to.Yes, there will be a lot of Razorback players wearing shirts with Tyson on the front and Wal-Mart on the back.
To be fair, he's played for the same AAU team and HS his entire career. He's not jumping ship when there's adversity anywhere he's played yet. And I don't see why you'd expect him to start now.
Agree with that, my point was more that it wouldn’t make much sense for an NIL collective/university to expose themself to this very common situation of a player decommiting, and then having them walk off with a chunk of their NIL funds.I don’t think that NCAA rules regulate how players get paid by collectives, businesses and fans at all. All a question of what each individual deal is and what the parties negotiate.
The kind of money we’re talking about is a rounding error on Walmart’s P&L.If it was as simple as money, why has Arkansas been so bad? Tyson is privately owned and can do what they want, but Walmart is a publicly traded company with shareholders to answer to.
They haven't been bad. I mean their coach just got poached.If it was as simple as money, why has Arkansas been so bad?
Their basketball has objectively been excellent.They haven't been bad. I mean their coach just got poached.
They haven't been bad. I mean their coach just got poached.
The "Walmart money" would be coming from Sam Walton's heirs.Walmart is a publicly traded company with shareholders to answer to.
I assume you weren’t a fan of Ryan Boatright in that case. Is this some sort of “in my day, a man’s word meant something” take?I really hate this freshman decommittment thing. I don’t want the Kentucky kids, and I’m not sure I want the Indiana kid - I mean, he signed with Indiana.
Tristen Newton signed with East Carolina. Cam Spencer signed with Loyola of MD. Different circumstances but often 18 year old kids make mistakes in judgment.I really hate this freshman decommittment thing. I don’t want the Kentucky kids, and I’m not sure I want the Indiana kid - I mean, he signed with Indiana.
It's not company money is either case. It's more a question of what members of the Walton family decide to do with their money, rather than what Walmart does. The family has spent lots of their exceptional personal fortunes on projects and activities in Arkansas. The Tyson money is coming from John Tyson, grandson of the company's founder...If it was as simple as money, why has Arkansas been so bad? Tyson is privately owned and can do what they want, but Walmart is a publicly traded company with shareholders to answer to.
Or Charlie V, Khalid, or Deandre...I assume you weren’t a fan of Ryan Boatright in that case. Is this some sort of “in my day, a man’s word meant something” take?
That's what's so dumb about NIL. John Tyson doesn't care about the name, image or likeness of Arkansas basketball players for his personal social media. The NCAA lost their battle and war. Just give up and let alums and the schools pay the players. They'll become subject to real contracts. Things like two-year contracts with restrictive covenants like a non-competition limited to P5 programs or in-conference programs, clawbacks, performance bonuses, signing bonuses. Fans may not like it, but what we have is just dumb.It's not company money is either case. It's more a question of what members of the Walton family decide to do with their money, rather than what Walmart does. The family has spent lots of their exceptional personal fortunes on projects and activities in Arkansas. The Tyson money is coming from John Tyson, grandson of the company's founder...
"Whatever John Tyson would ask me to do, I'm doing," said John Calipari as he was introduced as the new men's basketball coach at the University of Arkansas.