Adamec: No renewal of UConn-Tennessee in Sight

[RadyLady]

No joke.

I posted a link to a Tennessee news conference. The Summitt admin felt it was a link to private information and talked to her attorney sister who suggested she call the FBI. She did contact them.

Once we showed her that the video was on a free site with no restrictive access and didn't break any copyright laws she backed off.

Still waiting for her apology.

Been a long wait there dd....you ain't holdin' your breath or anything like that are ya?

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[vtcwbuff]

No joke.

I posted a link to a Tennessee news conference. The Summitt admin felt it was a link to private information and talked to her attorney sister who suggested she call the FBI. She did contact them.

Once we showed her that the video was on a free site with no restrictive access and didn't break any copyright laws she backed off.

Still waiting for her apology.

Is that why your avatar is blue - from holding your breath waiting for the apology?

 

[vtcwbuff]

Pat Summitt used her former stature to cast aspersions on Geno in an attempt, in my opinion, to prevent Geno and his team from taking over as best and most admired in women's basketball and to shore up Tennessee's waning recruiting success.

If you do want a return of the series, I suggest you go back to Tennessee and The Summitt and start a campaign to ask Pat and the Tennessee administration to either explain Pat's unethical behavior, or just plain apologize to Geno and the UConn community for what she did.

Read Eric's post. Of all the speculation, allegations and outright lies, his take is the one that has always made the most sense. I believe that someone in Summitt's camp convinced her that Auriemma had made remarks about Summitt's personal life during the recruiting of Maya Moore. That was the initial reaction of many fans when the series was cancelled. Summit's unwillingness to answer questions seemed to affirm that speculation. Then the issue was muddied by the crap posted on the Summitt board and the ultimately ridiculous "cheating" allegations submitted to the NCAA.

 

[DavidinNaples]

...now I understand why the last time I called the FBI about doggy they said, "We know him...all bark, no bite..."

 

[Phil]

Please tell me this is a joke! As a relatively new fan, I wasn't around when things got really nasty between UConn and Tennessee. The fact that the Boneyard was mentioned and the FBI got involved is just ... WOW!

Doggy already responded, but yeah "wow" is right.

They tried to sic the FBI on Doggy. If it wasn't so serious, it would be comical.

 

[Husky68]

Read Eric's post. Of all the speculation, allegations and outright lies, his take is the one that has always made the most sense. I believe that someone in Summitt's camp convinced her that Auriemma had made remarks about Summitt's personal life during the recruiting of Maya Moore. That was the initial reaction of many fans when the series was cancelled. Summit's unwillingness to answer questions seemed to affirm that speculation. Then the issue was muddied by the crap posted on the Summitt board and the ultimately ridiculous "cheating" allegations submitted to the NCAA.

"Personal life"? No, it was being out recruited. Nothing more mean than someone with a legacy trying to protect it as it shrinks away. She was a mean person portrayed as a good ol' girl country yokel by the press.

 

[doggydaddy]

We will never find out, so how about we just enjoy how Uconn is leaving then in the dust.

 

[JS]

the last time I called the FBI about doggy they said, "We know him...all bark, no bite..."

You misheard. They said "He's barking mad and can bite us for all we care."

The FBI episode, speaking of barking mad, wasn't entirely such. They do have a website where you can report thefts of intellectual property.

It's just that the FBI is more interested in, for example, little matters like the Chinese stealing American technology and trade secrets. If I had to guess, I'd say they probably lack a specialist in unauthorized quotes from premium basketball fan sites.

 

[Tonyc]

Before UConn will agree to renew the series, Tennessee has "explaining" to do regarding Summitt's decision to cancel the series six years ago and how the actions surrounding that decision "put Auriemma, some of his players, and the way he runs his program in a very negative light."

I like this part a lot. Its a polite way of saying... Admit to doing wrong. With that said it wont happen because Pat and Tenn will never admit to anything wrong.

This is a good thread in that it lets all those who didn't live through it have an idea of what happened and what we went through. How bout Compliance Officers contacting UConn fans for signs, posts, etc. It was really bad. Even with an apology and it should come from Pat demanded by the President of Tenn.

We need to stay away from Tenn and not even think of renewing the game. You can't go back, it will never be the same. Think about this. UConn win the NC in Nashville Tenn in April. What do you think happens then? If your wondering pay to get a subscription to the Summitt

 

[pinotbear]

I suspect UConn will eventually have some sort of series with Notre Dame, once all the dust settles with their move to the ACC. But, for the interim, I don't think it's a bad idea for a little hiatus.

Remember, the two teams have played 4 times per season - 4! - for 3 years running, and 3 times in the season before that. In a 4-year window of 154 games, 15 of 'em have been against the Irish. I find it unlikely that any other major college program, men's or women's, would have played nearly 10% of their entire 4-year schedule against just one opponent. And, don't forget, not against just any opponent, but a national top-tier team, almost always on national TV, with tremendous emphasis. You may remember, after just a few years of playing UConn twice per season, Pat Summitt backed it off to one, because two games of this kind of attention created a negative distraction to the UTenn program. It adversely affected preparation for conference games leading into the game, and had a bit of a hangover effect afterwards.

Now, do that several years running, plus it's a major conference game, plus, as it turns out, add another that means winning the conference tourney, and, add yet another that means getting to the national championship.

The old adage "familiarity breeds contempt" may also apply here, somewhat. Things can - and did - get a bit chippy, when facing a rival, yet again, with so much at stake. There aren't too many surprises, just force of will, and it can get personal - which, only adds to the pressure, and the difficulty of performing at peak proficiency.

Yes, it's been a great rivalry, and there have been some great games. I suspect there will be again, but, I think a little "breather" isn't a bad idea at all, for both schools. Let the dust settle, passions cool just a bit, remove some of the over-familiarity, and let there be a return of a little novelty and mystery to the contest.

 

[Wonkster]

... the fact that TonyC was specifically mentioned and his posts used in the 30+ page ridiculous report, and doggydaddy was reported to the FBI by none other than the main moderator of the Summitt ...

Absolutely right. Without question, doggydaddy should have been reported to the KGB, not the FBI.

 

[Icebear]

If DoggyDaddy needs to be arrested do they send Deputy Dog to do the honors?

 

[pinotbear]

Absolutely right. Without question, doggydaddy should have been reported to the KGB, not the FBI.

And, after you catch Moose and Squirrel, catch DoggyDaddy!

 

[johnnyc]

If DoggyDaddy needs to be arrested do they send Deputy Dog to do the honors?

Dog the bounty hunter if DD flees by land. Underdog if DD flees by air. Sea Dogs if he tries by sea. Hopefully he will realize there is no escape, relax and have a salty dog before capture. At that point Deputy Dog will read him his rights.

 

[JoePgh]

Sorry to be boring, but to get back to the original point of this thread, I think the various demands and preconditions from the Blue and the Orange sides are just the sort of thing that can and will be dissolved using that universal solvent known as MOOLAH!

If ABC or ESPN or NBC Sports offers a sufficiently large contract for a regular season game (which is easily conceivable), the fanbases and even the basketball coaches will not have the last word. Each university's bean counters will rule that the bounty is too large to pass up, and all past grievances on both sides will be set aside with some "neither admits nor denies guilt" formulation. The SEC has provided ample precedent for that.

 

[Bestiarius]

Absolutely right. Without question, doggydaddy should have been reported to the KGB, not the FBI.

Or to the AKC.

 

[triaddukefan]

Or to the AKC.

 

[jscott]

get over it already its been years its the greatest rivarly in the womens game forget about the past time to move on no game in womens basketball can possibly even come close to tennessee vs uconn. sorry but baylor vs uconn or notre dame vs uconn just isnt the same lets get this rivarly started back up again forget about everything else lets just play some basketball

 

[pinotbear]

"Those who forget about the past are condemned to repeat it".

 

[Icebear]

get over it already its been years its the greatest rivarly in the womens game forget about the past time to move on no game in womens basketball can possibly even come close to tennessee vs uconn. sorry but baylor vs uconn or notre dame vs uconn just isnt the same lets get this rivarly started back up again forget about everything else lets just play some basketball

Not even close to true.

 

[connboy77]

John A wrote in his blog:

Sources have since told the Courant that Warlick will not reschedule UConn out of respect to Summitt’s wishes and that while Summitt’s relationship with Auriemma has apparently mended, Warlick apparently is not ready to forgive and forget.

Sounds like Holly is not the one who isn't ready to forgive and forget. Some inconsistent statements coming out of Knoxville are beginning to make sense. I doubt Holly expected the reaction she received.

I don't understand what Warlick has to forgive and forget; Geno and UCONN have done nothing wrong!

 

[Tonyc]

get over it already its been years its the greatest rivarly in the womens game forget about the past time to move on no game in womens basketball can possibly even come close to tennessee vs uconn. sorry but baylor vs uconn or notre dame vs uconn just isnt the same lets get this rivarly started back up again forget about everything else lets just play some basketball

ct

I see your a new poster and with respect you didn't live through what many of us did. What would've happened if Pat with all her power won and the NCAA banned UConn Womens BB from the NCAAs. Think about it. No NCAA's. No recruits, no NCs. Do you understand what that would've done to UConn? It wouldn't be what it is today . UConn did nothing wrong, but Pat and Tenn and a select few tried to tear down, destroy UConn and everything and everybody who has anything to do with UConn. First Geno CD and the coaches would be out of jobs including asst coaches. The fans were singled out and posts and newspaper articles were part of the 37 page reports destroying reputations. Recruits include EDD Maya and Caroline were brought into it along with Diana and Sue the (Tenn game killers). TEnn pulled out all stops to destroy everything that was UConn. You can phathom how bad it was and how tormenting they were. What once was between UConn and Tenn is no longer. Yes it WAS past tense the greatest rivalry but it is no longer and UConn would have to be crazy to bring it back . It wont came back because Pat and Tenn will never admit to how petty and foolish they were doing what they did and tried to get though. Pat and Tenn would have to admit they were wrong and what they did was wrong and that aint happenin.

NO NO NO Never unless we meet in the NCAAs and even then it would be a night mare. Just wait for the FF in Nashville this season. UConn will win and watch the reaction from Tenn. They will congradulate us and then stab us in the back on their private board. It hasn't changed in all these years and that's because UConn continues to break Pats records, and Geno has replaced Pat and Tenn on top of WCBB and Tenn fans and those who adore Pat cant stand it.

 

[UConnCat]

I've always believed Pat's decision to cancel the series was all about recruiting and had nothing to do with things she believed were said about her personal life. She said he cheated at recruiting and Geno said that's what Pat told him. But as Geno also said, she didn't have the guts to say it publicly and answer questions about her charges because she wouldn't have been able to do so without looking and sounding petty and ridiculous. So, instead, she chose the cowardly and manipulative path: "Geno knows."

I'm pleased Geno has taken the stance that Tennessee has some explaining to do. Summitt publicly attacked Geno's integrity and the integrity of his program and some of his players without backing up her accusations. She did that on more than one occasion, including after he had been chosen to be the next Olympic Coach. Seriously, what male coach would be able to do that without the national media crashing down on him? Imagine Coach K or Dean Smith publicly accusing the other of cheating in recruiting and not backing up those accusations with facts. Although the Connecticut media had plenty to say about the matter, the national media refused to demand that Summitt back up her accusations. I think this may explain why Geno felt it was better to occupy the high ground for much of the past few years. Now, given an opportunity to speak directly to the accusers, he has quietly yet firmly defended himself, his coaches, his players (hello Maya) and his program. The ball is now in Holly's court.

 

[grizz36]

There is nothing that can be added to your post, Cat!

 

[vtcwbuff]

I think that if a coach makes comments about a competing coach's personal life with the intent of gaining an advantage with a recruit that might be considered cheating. I.E "You don't want to play for them, their coach kicks her dog whenever they lose"

I don't know if Auriemma actually made comments about Summitt. I believe that she thought he did.