Wilner (SJ Mercury News) - USC and UCLA planning to leave for B1G

[Rufus]

What I find strange in all of this is that USC and UCLA reached out to the Ten and not the other way around.

You can't blame them I guess.

I think it’s illegal for a conference to reach out to another conferences members regarding joining their conference. That would result in lawsuits.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

So what happens next? Do all the non-Big 10 and non-SEC schools have to discontinue their athletic programs? Or do they continue?

What has been the track record of schools "upgrading" their conference affiliation in the P5?

 

[metsfan2323]

So what happens next? Do all the non-Big 10 and non-SEC schools have to discontinue their athletic programs? Or do they continue?

Through all of the chaos over the last 11 years has a single school ended its football program or dropped down to FCS? I can't think of any.

Several schools have upgraded to D1 status and that trend continues. If the SEC and B1G breakaway from everyone I think the leftovers will form their own league and champion. It will be like the days of the NFL and the AFL in the 60's.

 

[ZooCougar]

What I find strange in all of this is that USC and UCLA reached out to the Ten and not the other way around.

You can't blame them I guess.

If you believe that.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Zoo and other legal experts know with certainty about Grants of Rights, but no one seems to know what happens to all the other schools that are not SEC or Big 10.

 

[Rufus]

Here are the sports teams sponsored by the Big Ten in which USC and UCLA do not sponsor as well as the sports teams USC and UCLA sponsor that the Big Ten does not (noted with a +):

USC Men’s

Cross Country

Gymnastics

Ice Hockey

Lacrosse

Soccer

Wrestling

+Volleyball

+Water Polo



USC Women’s

Field Hockey

Gymnastics

Softball

+Beach Volleyball

+Water Polo



UCLA Men’s

Gymnastics

Ice Hockey

Lacrosse

Swimming & Diving

Wrestling

+Volleyball

+Water Polo



UCLA Women’s

Field Hockey

Lacrosse

+Beach Volleyball

+Water Polo

 

[Rufus]

The Big Ten does not sponsor Men’s Volleyball, Men’s Water Polo, Women’s Beach Volleyball or Women’s Water Polo.

I’m surprised USC does not sponsor Softball.

Neither school sponsors Wrestling. Is it not popular out west?

Field Hockey and Lacrosse are mostly eastern sports, so that’s understandable neither school sponsors those sports. Ice Hockey is mostly a cold weather college sport.

I wonder if any sports will be added by these schools?

 

[huskymedic]

Here are the sports teams sponsored by the Big Ten in which USC and UCLA do not sponsor as well as the sports teams USC and UCLA sponsor that the Big Ten does not (noted with a +):

USC Men’s

Cross Country

Gymnastics

Ice Hockey

Lacrosse

Soccer

Wrestling

+Volleyball

+Water Polo



USC Women’s

Field Hockey

Gymnastics

Softball

+Beach Volleyball

+Water Polo



UCLA Men’s

Gymnastics

Ice Hockey

Lacrosse

Swimming & Diving

Wrestling

+Volleyball

+Water Polo



UCLA Women’s

Field Hockey

Lacrosse

+Beach Volleyball

+Water Polo

The Big Ten does not sponsor Men’s Volleyball, Men’s Water Polo, Women’s Beach Volleyball or Women’s Water Polo.

I’m surprised USC does not sponsor Softball.

Neither school sponsors Wrestling. Is it not popular out west?

Field Hockey and Lacrosse are mostly eastern sports, so that’s understandable neither school sponsors those sports. Ice Hockey is mostly a cold weather college sport.

I wonder if any sports will be added by these schools?

Olympic Sports:

Breaking down what a move to the Big Ten means for UCLA and USC Olympic sports

Softball and gymnastics should thrive, but other USC and UCLA Olympic sports will face more formidable challenges after moving to the Big Ten.

www.latimes.com

Hockey

UCLA and USC Join The Big Ten

There was a seismic shift in the world of major college athletics on Friday, as the Big Ten announced that the conference had voted unanimously to add UCLA and USC to the conference, bringing the...

www.sbncollegehockey.com

 

[coachcap]

So what happens next? Do all the non-Big 10 and non-SEC schools have to discontinue their athletic programs? Or do they continue?

What has been the track record of schools "upgrading" their conference affiliation in the P5?

University of Idaho dropped down to FCS status
Sorry, meant to respond to metfans?

 

[Rufus]

Do USC and UCLA carry the entire State of California market? Does the Big Ten get Northern California with just these two schools? Would San Francisco/Oakland be a Big Ten Market now even without Stanford or Cal?

 

[nelsonmuntz]

If you believe that.

Just so we are clear, I am rooting for you. I hope that, rather than Clemson having to be stuck in their GoR, instead it goes to court and BCU has to pay $10 billion to someone. I don't see how that happens, but I am on board.

 

[UCFBfan]

Here are the sports teams sponsored by the Big Ten in which USC and UCLA do not sponsor as well as the sports teams USC and UCLA sponsor that the Big Ten does not (noted with a +):

USC Men’s

Cross Country

Gymnastics

Ice Hockey

Lacrosse

Soccer

Wrestling

+Volleyball

+Water Polo



USC Women’s

Field Hockey

Gymnastics

Softball

+Beach Volleyball

+Water Polo



UCLA Men’s

Gymnastics

Ice Hockey

Lacrosse

Swimming & Diving

Wrestling

+Volleyball

+Water Polo



UCLA Women’s

Field Hockey

Lacrosse

+Beach Volleyball

+Water Polo

The Big Ten does not sponsor Men’s Volleyball, Men’s Water Polo, Women’s Beach Volleyball or Women’s Water Polo.

I’m surprised USC does not sponsor Softball.

Neither school sponsors Wrestling. Is it not popular out west?

Field Hockey and Lacrosse are mostly eastern sports, so that’s understandable neither school sponsors those sports. Ice Hockey is mostly a cold weather college sport.

I wonder if any sports will be added by these schools?

I read an article on Yahoo, sorry for lack of link, where they stated that Olympic sports should regionalize because this travel for some of these conferences ahem B1G ahem is insane and not logical. It would make sense. The BE, ACC, SEC, Pac 12, Big 12 make sense. The AAC and B1G do not. It only seems logical to do this for Olympic sports. Wanna travel for BBall and Football, fine? Lesser Olympic sports, not sure.

Interesting idea.

 

[ZooCougar]

Just so we are clear, I am rooting for you. I hope that, rather than Clemson having to be stuck in their GoR, instead it goes to court and BCU has to pay $10 billion to someone. I don't see how that happens, but I am on board.

And I agree. It will become a minor league and less and less people will care. They are killing the golden goose.

 

[dayooper]

I believe at least Clemson, FSU and UNC will have an out. Why? This is about markets and matchups. The Michigan-OSU game had just under 16 million viewers. Alabama and Auburn had just under 11 million. The UM- MSU game clocked in at just under 10 million. Any of these high level matchups draw big numbers. These matchups transcend regionality. Now add large, new markets and the numbers will go up. Clemson and FSU add too much to the pie to leave behind.

College football has become boring. It’s the same few schools with the others very little chance to make it. The top games some weeks were just poor. In week 5, the top game was ND/Wisconsin with WVU/OK 2nd. Hell, Mich/Rutgers was 5th. After ND played Wisky at noon, what national game was left (I’m not sure Wisky/ND is even a National game). The 2 super conferences might just change that. Adding FSU and Clemson to the SEC would help the schedules giving better games/ratings.

 

[Billy Jack]

Do USC and UCLA carry the entire State of California market? Does the Big Ten get Northern California with just these two schools? Would San Francisco/Oakland be a Big Ten Market now even without Stanford or Cal?

No, they do not bring the entire state, which tells us that the B1G isn’t done.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

LOL… it’s about the exposure:

Exposure will play a large role.

I Imagine that Nike would be happy to assist in adding funding to NIL deals if Oregon is part of a coast to coast athletic conference. The value that a school brings to a conference will include non-traditional media in many cases.