Vaccines

[Cuse Socks]

Yeah, Idc about high risk of dying. My boy is awesome, he's not getting covid, not on my watch. I keep him far away from anti-vax losers. Not worth the risk of any possibility of long term effects. He already dunks.

That's your decision as a parent. Hope to see your little guy in a husky uniform one day

 

[CL82]

I don't know how this figures into that analysis--and I'm not sure if this is still the case--but as of a few weeks ago the working theory was that Omicron developed within the body of one person infected with the original strain (i.e., back in 2020) who was severely immunocompromised and unable to clear the infection until recently. Apparently the strains have a kind of DNA and they were able to determine that Omicron contained some of the "DNA" of the original virus. The thinking was that it pinballed around inside this person's body for a year or more and mutated so that it could continue to evade their immune system.

Do you have a link to remember the source for that working theory? Intuitively it feels wrong and the logic seems a little anthropomorphized. If he’s severely immuno compromised individual caught the original strain, it feels unlikely that they would’ve survived for a year as a sort of perfect Petri dish, given the lethality of the original strain.

 

[8893]

Do you have a link to remember the source for that working theory? Intuitively it feels wrong and the logic seems a little anthropomorphized. If he’s severely immuno compromised individual caught the original strain, it feels unlikely that they would’ve survived for a year as a sort of perfect Petri dish, given the lethality of the original strain.

It was an NPR interview with two different doctors on All Things Considered. On a weeknight probably three to four weeks ago.

I could be misremembering the "severely" part, but I am confident in the rest.

 

[Chin Diesel]

I’m curious to hear what he says on whether the booster is a material benefit to you given your circumstances.

As am I. The "experts" on TV all say you should still get boosted a couple weeks after infection, which makes little sense on the face of it, but real world doctors tend to be more realistic and pragmatic.

I'm listening. I've consistently read you could do a booster as soon as two weeks post recovery but most say you could/should wait longer. That's where it gets squirrelly. I've seen anything from 30 days to 6 months.

this is just one example why I wish US had invested more in rapid antibody testing so we can better tailor to the individual without bogging down health care providers and labs.

 

[Chin Diesel]

From Astra Zeneca.

Don't try to vaccinate everyone all the time. Focus on those whose outcomes are most severe and let rest of world move on.

CDC chief endorses plan for youths age 12-15 to get a booster: Live COVID updates

Centers for Disease Control Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky cleared the way Wednesday for extra booster doses to be given right away to people ages 12 to 15.

www.usatoday.com

 

[Chief00]

Great read. Though much of this is, or should be, known info she conveys it clearly and her blog is well sourced.

I thought the below info was particularly noteworthy.

More and more mounting evidence is showing that Omicron is less severe than previous variants. A recent preprint found the risks for ED visits, hospitalization, ICU admission, and mechanical ventilation were consistently LESS THAN HALF among Omicron infections compared to Delta infections.

In children under 5 years old, the overall risks of ED visit and hospitalization for Omicron were 3.89% and 0.96% respectively, significantly lower than 21.01% and 2.65% in the matched Delta cohort.

Our boosters are 50-88% efficacious against Omicron. And even if someone doesn’t get a booster (and they are not high risk) their T-cells kick in and still largely protect them from severe disease and death.

These factors are leading to decoupling of hospitalizations from cases: hospitalizations are not rising at the same rate as cases. Because of this, in the UK, the number of ventilators being used is at the same rate as pre-pandemic winters. And decreasing.

Lots I agree with, but I would question the 50-88% effectiveness of the booster. One study had Pfizer going from 70% effective 2-4 weeks after the booster but down to 45% after 10 weeks for preventing symptomatic infection.
Vaccines definitely reduce severe infections however to end the pandemic, it looks like we will have to do it the old fashion way - through natural immunity.

 

[ClifSpliffy]

Science

u may have to use the small s the next time u write that word. seems like this guy has trade marked it. i bet it's fake, but what's real ...

 

[ClifSpliffy]

on the udderhand, here's some good news,
COVID-19 Corbevax Vaccine: A Gift to the World

still liking Texas, big time.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I'm listening. I've consistently read you could do a booster as soon as two weeks post recovery but most say you could/should wait longer. That's where it gets squirrelly. I've seen anything from 30 days to 6 months.

this is just one example why I wish US had invested more in rapid antibody testing so we can better tailor to the individual without bogging down health care providers and labs.

It does something. That said, it isn’t going to boost T Cells beyond a recent infection. As for neutralizing antibodies, your recent infection should be much better than a booster.

 

[ClifSpliffy]

as hinted, alluded, aw heck, stated here long ago, aboot the subject of carditis ('card'-ticker, 'itis'-inflammation) risks from mrna for young males (near pre-puberty to around 20+ by my accounting), well, it's data time.
More bad news on Covid vaccines and myocarditis in men under 40 - even as more colleges require booster shots for students

exploding tickers for young bucks was known way back, almost at inception. pretty much the rest of it, too. ya know, history+ basic human biochemistry. this unusual 'thickening of the blood' thing, as i call it, especially in young males, was worrisome to me when the mrna rolled out. now, it's actually true for a small portion of the target audience. science.
and,
where is all the youth death data?
(insert here the obligatory declaration that the shots are truly helpful for a certain, well-defined, at risk group, blah, blah, blah. i think it's a law nowadays. fine, i agree.)

ps. don't look at vaers. it just might make u pause, and think.
i see where the current positivity rate is trending up towards 25%, despite being vaxxed to the max. iffn that don't underline the original observation that 'everrone's gonna be exposed to it, and the only issue will be the state of our immune system,' ...
i don't know who this alex b guy is, i just grabbed this one becuz i've seen the study before, and this link was handy. he has nothing to do with the data, loon or otherwise.

 

[UConnSwag11]

 

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[Chin Diesel]

 

[UConnSwag11]

 

[huskysupporter]

Good job UCONN. Don’t want this to take a turn so that is all I will say.

 

[UConnSwag11]

I wonder how fluid it'll be getting people in and will revenue take a hit

 

[navery12]

"Or a negative Covid test within 72 hours" is a pretty big part to leave out of the thread title.... And you know there's gonna be at least one person who only reads the thread title

 

[BPT2Storrs]

Serious question. If I test negative three days before and end up exposed to someone right after my test doesn’t that mean I can then expose others at the game? Am I totally off basis here?

 

[UConnSwag11]

"Or a negative Covid test within 72 hours" is a pretty big part to leave out of the thread title.... And you know there's gonna be at least one person who only reads the thread title

I'm not writing a novel or newspaper article for a title

 

[EnochRoot]

Should’ve been this way from the beginning. Frankly it’s embarrassing it wasn’t.

 

[cohenzone]

Serious question. If I test negative three days before and end up exposed to someone right after my test doesn’t that mean I can then expose others at the game? Am I totally off basis here?

The home kits, not sure if all are the same, require 2 tests, the 2nd a confirming test 24-36 hours after the first.

 

[navery12]

Serious question. If I test negative three days before and end up exposed to someone right after my test doesn’t that mean I can then expose others at the game? Am I totally off basis here?

You are not, but there's an implied understanding in all of this that if you're exposed to someone you're quarantining. Whether that really should be implied given people's actions the last 2 years is a whole different conversation though

 

[polycom]

I was waiting for someone to post the MJ gif of this. This will be a good one.

 

[Husky Alien]

Serious question. If I test negative three days before and end up exposed to someone right after my test doesn’t that mean I can then expose others at the game? Am I totally off basis here?

Questions like this is going 2 put a lock on this thread. Have to agree though, it will run off the track.

 

[gtcam]

Better arrive 2 hours before tip off - if those checking the cards are anything like the security and parking lot attendants this could take forever JSMH