Vaccines

[temery]

Go ahead, let's see how stupid you really are.

Politics, abortion and religion are off limits.

 

[Chief00]

Thank you. So we just had over 1/2 of a 100% vaccinated team and at least 1 of 4 vaccinated coaches test positive. Yet, somehow the brillant CT DPH and UConn collaboration seem to think vaccinations are the solution to Omicron transmission and infection at games.

Ironically, now that they have prior infection immunity, the team is much safer being exposed to either vax or unvax.

I am vaccinated and boostered, because it reduces severe illness and death risk.

Even boostered, Pfizer is down to 45% effective against symptomatic transmission in 10 weeks. Imagine what the unboostered rate is after 6 months? Or what the 45% rate would be if you included asymptomatic transmission?

UK agency: Pfizer booster’s ability to prevent symptomatic COVID wanes within weeks

Data shows 3rd shot 70% effective in preventing illness after 2 weeks but only 45% after 10 weeks; Moderna seems to offer more durable protection, staying at 70% after 10 weeks

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[temery]

Thank you. So we just had over 1/2 of a 100% vaccinated team and at least 1 of 4 vaccinated coaches test positive. Yet, somehow the brillant CT DPH and UConn collaboration seem to think vaccinations are the solution to Omicron transmission and infection at games.

Ironically, now that they have prior infection immunity, the team is much safer being exposed to either vax or unvax.

I am vaccinated and boostered, because it reduces severe illness and death risk.

Even boostered, Pfizer is down to 45% effective against symptomatic transmission in 10 weeks. Imagine what the unboostered rate is after 6 months? Or what the 45% rate would be if you included asymptomatic transmission?

UK agency: Pfizer booster’s ability to prevent symptomatic COVID wanes within weeks

Data shows 3rd shot 70% effective in preventing illness after 2 weeks but only 45% after 10 weeks; Moderna seems to offer more durable protection, staying at 70% after 10 weeks

www.timesofisrael.com

Ah, the first idiot speaks.

 

[storrsroars]

So my wife tells me that the way Pitt is handling tonight's Peach Bowl is that they've stopping testing. Unless someone complains of being sick, they're simply not risking any positive tests that would jeopardize the game.

I wouldn't have thought that to be a reasonable plan even three months ago, but at the moment, it sounds pretty sane.

fwiw, I have both Moderna shots and booster. But I'm also old enough to be a grandpa for our student-athletes.

 

[Chief00]

Ah, the first idiot speaks.

My pleasure. One thing I would like to add is Mohegan Sun spent a few million dollars on something actually useful for large arena and gaming crowds. They invested in an enhancement to their HVAC system that zaps and kills the virus in seconds, with I believe ultra violent light.
But, of course, UConn and the State of CT are behind the curve on doing something actually useful like that at XL and Gampel. It’s almost criminal it hasn’t been done. Low hanging fruit. But, our buildings are poorly managed.

 

[pepband99]

This one's an all-timer

 

[Jay-Bone]

1. Vaccines reduce spread and serious illness.
2. KIDS STILL AREN'T VACCINATED!!!!! They are vulnerable from people who go to games and bring it home. No one knows long term effects in kids.
3. Hospitals are getting crushed, yet again.
4. Further worse mutations can still form if we don't do everything we can as a society. How many tries do we need?

Stop caring just about yourselves. At least until we curb this rampant onslaught of omicron and get the kids vaxxed.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I like to stick with data. So here's some from Denmark. Dr. Hoeg has testified before the House of Reps as an expert. It remains clear that vaccines reduce ICU admissions and death. As for transmission, two shots and 3 shots are both worse than prior infection and are more or less the same as no shots. However, the evidence has been that the prior infection immune response may be incomplete in the vaccinated (was with Delta). It's possible that the 30 spike protein mutations means that infection with Omicron may provoke a more full response in the vaccinated.

If you scroll down her feed she has data on Norway, Myocarditis etc. I find most of these researchers are quite cautious about drawing clear conclusions. For the record, as of last week, I'm now at 3 shots and prior infection. I oppose mandates, especially for college kids and younger or those with risk factors like pregnant women.

 

[temery]

It remains clear that vaccines reduce ICU admissions and death.

'You should have stopped there.

Let's put it this way: If you had a choice between two equally qualified barbers, are you going to go to a barber who is fully vaccinated, or one who wasn't vaccinated at all?

 

[Chin Diesel]

'You should have stopped there.

Let's put it this way: If you had a choice between two equally qualified barbers, are you going to go to a barber who is fully vaccinated, or one who wasn't vaccinated at all?

Well, if you are vaccinated, boosted and wear a mask, it really shouldn't matter to you for your own health. Neither situation is going to impact your health much. All the data suggests you would have a very slight chance of catching it from either barber and if you did catch, you would only have mild symptoms.

OTOH, if it's a matter of principle that you believe everyone should be vaccinated, you go to the vaccinated barber in hopes that unvaccinated barber loses enough business to make the choice to become vaccinated and reclaim some or all the clients who left.

 

[HuskyHawk]

'You should have stopped there.

Let's put it this way: If you had a choice between two equally qualified barbers, are you going to go to a barber who is fully vaccinated, or one who wasn't vaccinated at all?

I would not care. Because the data now show that the impact of the vaccines on transmission of Omicron is zero. The mRNA vaccines were based on a portion of the spike protein of the original Sars-Cov2. With 30 mutations just in the spike protein alone, it now seems there is no effect at all on transmission. Hence the case rates we see even in places like Iceland, Mass and NYC that are very vaccinated. So from a standpoint of mandating it at XL or wherever, pointless. May lead to a false sense of security.

 

[Stinger92860]

'You should have stopped there.

Let's put it this way: If you had a choice between two equally qualified barbers, are you going to go to a barber who is fully vaccinated, or one who wasn't vaccinated at all?

I’ve had to make this exact choice. I have a new Barber.

 

[temery]

Well, if you are vaccinated, boosted and wear a mask, it really shouldn't matter to you for your own health. Neither situation is going to impact your health much. All the data suggests you would have a very slight chance of catching it from either barber and if you did catch, you would only have mild symptoms.

OTOH, if it's a matter of principle that you believe everyone should be vaccinated, you go to the vaccinated barber in hopes that unvaccinated barber loses enough business to make the choice to become vaccinated and reclaim some or all the clients who left.

Not true. I'd also be worried about a new strain. My barber is an anti vaxer. Haven't had her cut my hair in close to two years.

 

[Stinger92860]

Well, if you are vaccinated, boosted and wear a mask, it really shouldn't matter to you for your own health. Neither situation is going to impact your health much. All the data suggests you would have a very slight chance of catching it from either barber and if you did catch, you would only have mild symptoms.

OTOH, if it's a matter of principle that you believe everyone should be vaccinated, you go to the vaccinated barber in hopes that unvaccinated barber loses enough business to make the choice to become vaccinated and reclaim some or all the clients who left.

I’m vaxxed and boosted. I’m anti mandate. If I get Covid, the goal is not to die and I should be protected by the vaccine. However, my Mom (vaxxed and boosted) could still be at risk due to heart disease and several Grandchilren are not vaxxed due to age. For those reasons I still need to be careful. Also, I liked not having a cold last winter. So, I still use sanitizer and wear a mask.

 

[CTBasketball]

I’ve had to make this exact choice. I have a new Barber.

The data shown above suggests you are “safer” with your unvaccinated barber.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Not true. I'd also be worried about a new strain. My barber is an anti vaxer. Haven't had her cut my hair in close to two years.

What's not true?

You really think you have a higher chance of a severe case if you it is passed to you from a vaccinated barber vice having it passed to you from an unvaccinated barber?

If you are vaccinated, chances of you having a severe reaction are markedly low.

 

[temery]

The data shown above suggests you are “safer” with your unvaccinated barber.

'Not even close to true.

 

[Hey Adrien!]

The data shown above suggests you are “safer” with your unvaccinated barber.

Totally wrong.

The data in the first paragraph shows that the new variant is spreading 2-5 times faster than previous variants among the vaccinated, yet spreading at the same rate for unvaccinated. That's all it is saying.

Same logic as above: A person driving a car is going 60 mph while a person walking is going 3 mph. The walker found a bike and is now going 2-5 times faster, therefore a traveling at a rate between 6 mph-15 mph. Which mode of transportation is faster?

The opinion in the 2nd paragraph is totally wrong and yet another example of how the internet can persuade people with poor or a lack of critical thinking. That's why we teach this type of critical thinking at school, to allow people to think for themselves when faced with information or misinformation, like the 2nd paragraph of that tweet.

Unvaccinated people are more likely to get the virus and more likely to be hospitalized and more likely to die. That's the facts.

There is zero reason not to get the vaccine and I cannot fathom why any eligible person would not get the vaccine (unless serious medical reasons).

 

[8893]

There is zero reason not to get the vaccine and I cannot fathom why any eligible person would not get the vaccine (unless serious medical reasons).

 

[Scoe]

'You should have stopped there.

Let's put it this way: If you had a choice between two equally qualified barbers, are you going to go to a barber who is fully vaccinated, or one who wasn't vaccinated at all?

Who ever is the better barber. Would you rather have Mike Glennon as your qb (vaccinated) or Aaron Rodgers (unvaccinated).

 

[CTBasketball]

Totally wrong.

The data in the first paragraph shows that the new variant is spreading 2-5 times faster than previous variants among the vaccinated, yet spreading at the same rate for unvaccinated and that's all it is saying.

Same logic as above: A person driving a car is going 60 mph while a person walking is going 3 mph. The walker found a bike and is now going 2-5 times faster, therefore a rate between 6 mph-15 mph. Which mode of transportation is faster?

The opinion in the 2nd paragraph is totally wrong and yet another example of how the interest can persuade people with poor or a lack of critical thinking. That's why we teach this type of critical thinking at school, to allow people to think for themselves when faced with information or misinformation, like the 2nd paragraph of that tweet.

Unvaccinated people are more likely to get the virus and more likely to be hospitalized and more likely to die.

There is zero reason not to get the vaccine and I cannot fathom why any eligible person would not get the vaccine (unless serious medical reasons).

'Not even close to true.

Hey I’m vaccinated I was just pointing out the above post.

I’m all for getting the vaccine if you want it, but the high levels of positive cases, hospitalizations, and soon to be deaths is going to turn a lot of people away from the vaccine. Especially when the CDC and federal government told us in the late summer/fall get vaccinated so you won’t get COVID or pass it along.

 

[temery]

That movie is both over rated and very good.

 

[EBonz30]

Thanks for all the information & opinions- now I will make my own decision on the vaccine & Covid-19.

 

[Tyler2Rings]

Ugh I got my two shots with the last one in May. I had my booster scheduled for today...until I tested positive yesterday. I have been kicking myself for not getting boosted when I was first eligible a month ago

 

[temery]

Ugh I got my two shots with the last one in May. I had my booster scheduled for today...until I tested positive yesterday. I have been kicking myself for not getting boosted when I was first eligible a month ago

Got my booster last week. Could be coincidence, but I've felt like crap the past few days, and have slept only three or four hours each day.