UConn moves up one spot in U. S. News rankings

[UCONNJACK]

UConn moves up one spot to No. 23 in U.S. News rankings of top public universities; Yale ranks No. 4 nationally

As it has for the past decade, UConn ranks among the top 25 national public universities, according to the 2021 U.S. News Best Colleges rankings, tying Penn State and Rutgers for No. 23. The rankin…

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[Hoophound]

That’s good. I expected a drop.

 

[HobokenHusky]

Florida State is a better school than UConn or Penn State, and University of Florida is a better school than Boston College or Georgia Tech. 2020 baby.

 

[Peacefrog]

I believe they changed some of the criteria to include student indebtedness and the like so perhaps the ranking has veered a bit toward "educational value".

 

[jdb50]

Florida State is a better school than UConn or Penn State, and University of Florida is a better school than Boston College or Georgia Tech. 2020 baby.

Should have ended this stupidity with "change my mind."

 

[Woof 101]

While I get how respected our institution of higher education is respected. I can't wait until a thread comes on this football forum touting UConn moving up to # 23. That in the AP and other polls.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Florida State is a better school than UConn or Penn State, and University of Florida is a better school than Boston College or Georgia Tech. 2020 baby.

Big HS population means plenty of graduates to choose and filter. Only top of class students get in to UF or FSU. Next tier goes to UCF, USF, FAU, etc.

Also doesn't hurt there is a lack of high quality private universities to siphen off top students. Duke, Vandy, Emory and U of Miami are the only legit top-50 schools within 300 miles of Florida border.

 

[Watchdog]

Big HS population means plenty of graduates to choose and filter. Only top of class students get in to UF or FSU. Next tier goes to UCF, USF, FAU, etc.

Also doesn't hurt there is a lack of high quality private universities to siphen off top students. Duke, Vandy, Emory and U of Miami are the only legit top-50 schools within 300 miles of Florida border.

Friends in FL always put down Fla St as a "safe" school with poor academics. What happened and when?

 

[Watchdog]

UConn moves up one spot to No. 23 in U.S. News rankings of top public universities; Yale ranks No. 4 nationally

As it has for the past decade, UConn ranks among the top 25 national public universities, according to the 2021 U.S. News Best Colleges rankings, tying Penn State and Rutgers for No. 23. The rankin…

www.courant.com

One factor that hurt UConn is that only 9% of Bachelor's degree holders donated in the last two years. That seems low to me but may be why our endowment is so much lower than schools like Cincinnati.

 

[Waquoit]

Big HS population means plenty of graduates to choose and filter. Only top of class students get in to UF or FSU.

But these kids come from Florida

 

[Guapo]

Always love when these rankings come out and seeing all the ignorance regarding how big state schools operate in the rest of the country from us UConn folk.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Friends in FL always put down Fla St as a "safe" school with poor academics. What happened and when?

I don't know and won't pretend to know the history of this. I do know UF has been a good to very good school for a while now. How and why FSU got good over past 20 is a bit of a mystery to me. Only thing I can think of is raw numbers of HS grads in the state mean only a certain few can get in to UF and FSU is the clear #2 public school in the state.

Some online searches show Florida having about 180k-190k HS grads. Only 8k-9k of them are getting in to UF. The rest have to go somewhere. Looks like FSU is doing better with getting sloppy seconds rather than HS students going out of state.

 

[John Greene]

One factor that hurt UConn is that only 9% of Bachelor's degree holders donated in the last two years. That seems low to me but may be why our endowment is so much lower than schools like Cincinnati.

Excuse me while I go off on a rant.

Don't know about others, but from my experience UConn's outreach to alumni over the years has been beyond pathetic. Since my own graduation, except for the alumni magazine, I have not been contacted in close to 50 years. My grad school, NYU, on the other hand has been in regular contact since graduation. Net result cumulative giving to NYU vastly exceeds that to UConn.

 

[Hoophound]

Very hard to get into FSU these days. Not to get political, but the Florida universities are well-funded and arent overpaying staff. PS, I’m voting for Biden.

 

[Waquoit]

Very hard to get into FSU these days. Not to get political, but the Florida universities are well-funded and arent overpaying staff. PS, I’m voting for Biden.

Did you see the crowd at the FSU game? No braniacs there.

 

[LoyalFanCT]

Any increase is better than dropping down in the US News rankings. Hopefully, the pandemic will not hurt UConn's 2022 ranking. Within a few years, I could see UConn in the top 15 state universities and perhaps in the top 50 national universities, private and public. I am sure the new president would like to see that too. Perhaps he could lead the school in that direction.

 

[John Greene]

Any increase is better than dropping down in the US News rankings. Hopefully, the pandemic will not hurt UConn's 2022 ranking. Within a few years, I could see UConn in the top 15 state universities and perhaps in the top 50 national universities, private and public. I am sure the new president would like to see that too. Perhaps he could lead the school in that direction.

It is probably safe to say that everyone here feels the same. The problem is that every other school in the country is trying to do the same thing. So it will come down to the resources at their disposal. In the past the state gave UConn a credit card to support upgrades and expansion. Will be interesting to see what the future brings.

 

[LoyalFanCT]

It is probably safe to say that everyone here feels the same. The problem is that every other school in the country is trying to do the same thing. So it will come down to the resources at their disposal. In the past the state gave UConn a credit card to support upgrades and expansion. Will be interesting to see what the future brings.

Good point John. But I suspect some schools, like Northeastern and Univ. of Florida, took some steps to push themselves up in the rankings, that did not completely relate to resource allocation. They may be shrewder than some other universities.

 

[John Greene]

Good point John. But I suspect some schools, like Northeastern and Univ. of Florida, took some steps to push themselves up in the rankings, that did not completely relate to resource allocation. They may be shrewder than some other universities.

From time to time you will see a story about some school that soars in the USNWR rating by tailoring their stats. Don't know if either NU or UF have played that game. I do know that in the case of UF the university and the state made a commitment to make it as 'elite' as they can. With FSU, South Florida and Central Florida among others as in state backups they have been going all out to channel more of the better applicants to UF. With the high school graduate numbers there continuing to rise they have been successful.

 

[Redding Husky]

I’m no expert on this subject, but I remember reading finances are an important part of the rankings. Hopefully the state’s economy can improve and the government gets its budget issues resolved. Then it can continue to fund UConn as generously as it has over the last 20-25 years.

 

[DoctorWho85]

I chose Stony Brook to get my second Bachelors. Those ranking make me feel good about my choice.

 

[Storrs South]

 

[beerfan]

Malcolm Gladwell did a podcast on why these rankings are kind of bogus.

Malcolm Gladwell Podcast “Revisionist History” Focuses on HBCU Dillard Univ.; Exposes Hypocrisy of Well-known Annual College Ranking System - UNCF

The renowned journalist and author’s podcast episode examines the impact of U.S. News & World Report’s annual college rankings on HBCUS Breaking through the mythology of what makes or […]

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[SubbaBub]

From time to time you will see a story about some school that soars in the USNWR rating by tailoring their stats. Don't know if either NU or UF have played that game. I do know that in the case of UF the university and the state made a commitment to make it as 'elite' as they can. With FSU, South Florida and Central Florida among others as in state backups they have been going all out to channel more of the better applicants to UF. With the high school graduate numbers there continuing to rise they have been successful.

Every school does this to some extent, even the Ivies. These rankings while popular are little more than a aggregation of stats that have little to do with the slicing and dicing the quality of education to the extent you can have a definitive ranking.

A better way to look at it is how does a particular school fare in areas that are important to me.

The big number here is acceptance rate. Aot more people are applying to big public schools in warm weather states than they are in northeastern ones.

I also think these rankings are more important to top students that those in the middle, where such nuances won't make much of a difference. The top 1% at FSU will show just fine against the top 1% of most other schools. But if I'm looking at the bottom 30% percentile, they better be from a better school.

The old joke about what they call the guy who graduated last in med school, applies here.

 

[LoyalFanCT]

I see the Florida state universities are moving up in rankings. UConn should follow their example if possible,