I know plenty about Rice. Two cousins went there, and I know a Rice recruited athlete well. I acknowledge Rice has higher standards than PL schools for regular students. However I was only talking about recruited athletes - and I know the numbers well in that area. In at least football and men's basketball, Rice has admitted players with SAT's of about 1100. That is higher than almost all schools, since only two leagues (Ivy and Patriot) have iron-clad standards on minimum SAT's and GPA's relative to those of the average student at each respective school, while the rest will bend the standards significantly for good athletes. Duke, for example, in men's basketball has admitted players with SAT's below 800.