Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[Kolumbo]

That confirms it. UConn will be elevated and the PAC is dead.

 

[hoopsfan22]

That confirms it. UConn will be elevated and the PAC is dead.

If we were starting from scratch we would be. Of course if we were starting from scratch today in this dog eat dog every one out for themselves world, conferences as we know them likely wouldn't exist. You look at all the legacy dead weight schools in the P5 and even P2 conferences and you just shake your head at how lucky they got... and do they even realize it?

 

[Storrs South]

do they even realize it?

Considering the Rutgers AD is going around talking about what he thinks of next steps for Big 10 expansion (as if Rutgers has any say in any affairs of the conference)...no

 

[uconndogs]

If we were starting from scratch we would be. Of course if we were starting from scratch today in this dog eat dog every one out for themselves world, conferences as we know them likely wouldn't exist. You look at all the legacy dead weight schools in the P5 and even P2 conferences and you just shake your head at how lucky they got... and do they even realize it?

Extracting small market programs from some of these conferences I’m sure makes economic sense and it will eventually happen.

 

[hoopsfan22]

Extracting small market programs from some of these conferences I’m sure makes economic sense and it will eventually happen.

Uneven revenue sharing is essentially the start of the unraveling of the conferences as we know them. Eventually the top 2-3 teams in the big conferences are going to realize they don't need the bottom 3/4 of the teams in the league. We're starting to hit a ceiling in terms of how much these media deals are worth, and one of the last routes left for the Ohio States and Alabamas of the world to greatly increase their revenue is by taking a bigger cut of the pie. The step after that will be schools wanting to just negotiate their own monster deals keeping all of the money for themselves. The media won't negotiate with dozens of schools individually, so they'll bundle the top 30 or so biggest brands into an informal breakaway league where they play each other and have their own tournaments and rake in max money.

 

[uconndogs]

Yup……

 

[UConnJim]

Uneven revenue sharing is essentially the start of the unraveling of the conferences as we know them. Eventually the top 2-3 teams in the big conferences are going to realize they don't need the bottom 3/4 of the teams in the league. We're starting to hit a ceiling in terms of how much these media deals are worth, and one of the last routes left for the Ohio States and Alabamas of the world to greatly increase their revenue is by taking a bigger cut of the pie. The step after that will be schools wanting to just negotiate their own monster deals keeping all of the money for themselves. The media won't negotiate with dozens of schools individually, so they'll bundle the top 30 or so biggest brands into an informal breakaway league where they play each other and have their own tournaments and rake in max money.

The two best pro sports leagues are the NFL and NBA which have close to equal revenue sharing, and fan interest continues to grow. MLB is made up of the haves and the have nots and fan interest is not growing. College football could become like the MLB if they are not careful.

 

[hoopsfan22]

The two best pro sports leagues are the NFL and NBA which have close to equal revenue sharing, and fan interest continues to grow. MLB is made up of the haves and the have nots and fan interest is not growing. College football could become like the MLB if they are not careful.

Equal sharing is fine so long as all members feel like all others are pulling their weight and contributing. With the way conferences are configured currently, that is not the case, and schools are starting to become vocal about this reality in the capitalistic battle for every last dollar. How long will Ohio State put up with carrying Northwestern? How long will Texas put up with carrying Vandy? Or Clemson carrying Wake Forest? Like any relationship, once you start fighting over money, it's over.

 

[CTBballfan243]

The two best pro sports leagues are the NFL and NBA which have close to equal revenue sharing, and fan interest continues to grow. MLB is made up of the haves and the have nots and fan interest is not growing. College football could become like the MLB if they are not careful.

The reason they are favorites has nothing to do with equal revenue sharing and everything to do with gambling. Football and basketball are just better sports to gamble on.

 

[jostar1]

 

[Luna]

You got to love Jim Mora… he is really bought in to Uconn… I wouldn’t trade any of our coaches

 

[businesslawyer]

Extracting small market programs from some of these conferences I’m sure makes economic sense and it will eventually happen.

No, it doesn’t. There is a reason the Harlem Globetrotters tour with the Washington Generals. Michigan isn’t Michigan without guaranteed wins against the Indianas and Northwesterns of the world. If you have a conference without deadbeats, then good teams struggle to finish above .500 and no one cares about them any more.

 

[Stinger92860]

No, it doesn’t. There is a reason the Harlem Globetrotters tour with the Washington Generals. Michigan isn’t Michigan without guaranteed wins against the Indianas and Northwesterns of the world. If you have a conference without deadbeats, then good teams struggle to finish above .500 and no one cares about them any more.

And the collaboration is based on more than sports. A lot of research and the $$$ come into play.

 

[Exit 4]

No, it doesn’t. There is a reason the Harlem Globetrotters tour with the Washington Generals. Michigan isn’t Michigan without guaranteed wins against the Indianas and Northwesterns of the world. If you have a conference without deadbeats, then good teams struggle to finish above .500 and no one cares about them any more.

I agree and yet it seems the powers that be might lose sight of this fundamental fact in the decades ahead. All those mid tier P5 programs maintain nice winning records thanks largely due to the current open ended P5-G5 system. Make it a closed system and you take away a lot of Ws. Take away those Ws and attendance and revenues may decline rather substantially.

 

[CL82]

No, it doesn’t. There is a reason the Harlem Globetrotters tour with the Washington Generals. Michigan isn’t Michigan without guaranteed wins against the Indianas and Northwesterns of the world. If you have a conference without deadbeats, then good teams struggle to finish above .500 and no one cares about them any more.

Lol at calling Northwestern, the Washington Generals. It’s funny because it’s true.

 

[gioff2323]

No, it doesn’t. There is a reason the Harlem Globetrotters tour with the Washington Generals. Michigan isn’t Michigan without guaranteed wins against the Indianas and Northwesterns of the world. If you have a conference without deadbeats, then good teams struggle to finish above .500 and no one cares about them any more.

I dunno. I am hard pressed to find an SEC program that has lost interest in last 20 years as the conference has proven to be head and shoulders above everyone. And don’t say Vandy, they’ve never been a draw and become less so every year now that they’re playing in a pro town.

 

[uconndogs]

No, it doesn’t. There is a reason the Harlem Globetrotters tour with the Washington Generals. Michigan isn’t Michigan without guaranteed wins against the Indianas and Northwesterns of the world. If you have a conference without deadbeats, then good teams struggle to finish above .500 and no one cares about them any more.

Do you think the Washington Generals pulled the same share of the gate that the HGT did?

This is moving to a pure business model driven by market dynamics. I’ll be shocked if Miss. State and Texas are in the same conference in the next 10-20 years. But, I can just about assure you that if they are, those two institutions will be pulling shares relative to respective market values.

 

[businesslawyer]

Do you think the Washington Generals pulled the same share of the gate that the HGT did?

This is moving to a pure business model driven by market dynamics. I’ll be shocked if Miss. State and Texas are in the same conference in the next 10-20 years. But, I can just about assure you that if they are, those two institutions will be pulling shares relative to respective market values.

Don’t disagree with the second part. That’s a different discussion.

 

[uconndogs]

Don’t disagree with the second part. That’s a different discussion.

Yes, the term used was extraction which certainly implies removal of certain programs and not necessarily share reductions. Will be interesting to see.

 

[Kolumbo]

No, it doesn’t. There is a reason the Harlem Globetrotters tour with the Washington Generals. Michigan isn’t Michigan without guaranteed wins against the Indianas and Northwesterns of the world. If you have a conference without deadbeats, then good teams struggle to finish above .500 and no one cares about them any more.

What's nice is that even good programs already become deadbeats. This year's roster included Florida, Auburn, TAMU, Nebraska, Miami, Oklahoma

 

[ScottVib]

I wonder if we eventually see the rights fees split by X for appearance on broadcast (ABC/CBS, etc) Y for appearance on national primary cable (ESPN) and so on down to Z for streamed games. Maybe the conference creates a floor for each school and then they get the ‘bonus’ based on content selected from each school.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

 

[CoastAtlantic]

 

[Exit 4]

So this begs the question, won't the B1G eventually succumb to the market realities of the cord cutters? I get the cord maybe far "stronger" in the midwest, but surely in the coming years the B1G will have some negative news to report on the B1G network- .....right?!

 

[whalerfan]

Say bye bye to the Longhorn Network.