OT: kemba with 21 tonight. shot the three well and got to the line.

[aceboon]

Really hard to watch right now, even harder when you see how Hayward is playing in Charlotte. Since his return he's pretty much continued on with his putrid bubble play. If he's cooked then it really limits the Celtics ceiling with that contract for the next couple of years.

 

[Hoophound]

I haven’t been watching lately, so I don’t have an opinion. My buddy, who is a big Celtics fan, tells me Kemba is just in a shooting slump since he came back. I have no idea if that’s the case, but if he is just missing a ton of jump shots, he’ll probably figure it out. He’s a tireless worker.

It sounds like a lot of other people think it is more serious and he’s physically damaged. Frankly, I’d take Aceboon’s analysis over my buddy’s based on track record. Hopefully, Kemba recovers.

 

[elmcityboy]

not as hard-to-watch as jeff teague, though...

seriously though, as a celtics fan and a kemba fan, i have to believe that he will find his shot in the second half of the season. he can still move and generate good looks. from the celtics perspective, he only needs to be serviceable through next season. in the fourth year of his contract, he is expiring and can be packaged with picks and/or young guys for a better player.

 

[aceboon]

not as hard-to-watch as jeff teague, though...

seriously though, as a celtics fan and a kemba fan, i have to believe that he will find his shot in the second half of the season. he can still move and generate good looks. from the celtics perspective, he only needs to be serviceable through next season. in the fourth year of his contract, he is expiring and can be packaged with picks and/or young guys for a better player.

Teague signing made no sense to me, I thought the TWolves performed better with Bazz on the floor last season before he got traded

 

[donyell34]

Had a good 2nd half Fri. night with the Celtics coming from behind to beat the clippers.

 

[Kemba'sYogurt]

Had a good 2nd half Fri. night with the Celtics coming from behind to beat the clippers.

Yep Kemba was fantastic the other night down the stretch.

Hes 3/18 today though

 

[UconnU]

Since the head injury he hasn’t played the same.

 

[elmcityboy]

Teague signing made no sense to me, I thought the TWolves performed better with Bazz on the floor last season before he got traded

c's should have signed bazz. i don't even think that's my national-flag-blue-colored glasses speaking, either.

 

[aceboon]

Unfortunately it's looking like he gave his knees to Charlotte, he's borderline unplayable

 

[HooperScooper]

I just looked it up and he's shooting about 35% for the season. I thought it would be like 25% by the way he's looked the last handful of games. He's in a brutal slump. Hope he gets out of it soon.

 

[Ratso]

who would’ve thought that after became an all star that he’d be the 3rd best player on a team

 

[auror]

2-12 tonight.

 

[UconnU]

2-12 tonight.

Yikes.

 

[elmcityboy]

Unfortunately it's looking like he gave his knees to Charlotte, he's borderline unplayable

i mean, he was an all-star starter last year... i know it goes quickly for point guards, but it still looks to me like he is moving fine and just missing open looks. i'm not panicking yet.

 

[the Q]

He was like 12th in playoff Raptor last year on one leg.

And on a short layoff with no training camp, let’s see what happens by the time the playoffs roll around.

The NBA is the least valuable regular season in all of sports

 

[HooperScooper]

He was like 12th in playoff Raptor last year on one leg.

And on a short layoff with no training camp, let’s see what happens by the time the playoffs roll around.

The NBA is the least valuable regular season in all of sports

Hockey? Where lower seeds seem to beat higher seeds all the time and the best team in the regular season seems to never win the Stanley Cup.

 

[NYConnMan]

He was like 12th in playoff Raptor last year on one leg.

And on a short layoff with no training camp, let’s see what happens by the time the playoffs roll around.

The NBA is the least valuable regular season in all of sports

Beat me to it. There is some real recency bias when people act like he was bad in the playoffs last year. He struggled against Miami, which obviously sticks in peoples' heads, but he was still their second best playoff performer overall last year behind Tatum by pretty much any advanced metric.

This year is concerning so far, but I think he'll figure it out. If he could perform well in the playoffs pre-surgery, I would expect that post-surgery this year he should do at least as well. So far that hasn't been the case but I'm hoping it is just some extended rust since he couldn't practice at all this offseason. Hayward wasn't initially great when he came back from his various injuries, either.

 

[Matrim55]

He was like 12th in playoff Raptor last year on one leg.

And on a short layoff with no training camp, let’s see what happens by the time the playoffs roll around.

Exactly. A lot of these obits are coming way too soon.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

Rough sledding for our guy right now but I have infinite faith in him.

 

[the Q]

Exactly. A lot of these obits are coming way too soon.

I will say if the celts don’t deliver this year I could see trader Danny really shaking things this offseason

 

[Matrim55]

I will say if the celts don’t deliver this year I could see trader Danny really shaking things this offseason

He's going to shake it up regardless given the TPE, which has to be used by December. But my guess is that the core 3 (Tatum, Brown & Smart) are close to untradeable, and that Kemba is unlikely to be traded regardless given his age and contract.

Of the rest of the team the ones I hope he keeps are Theis, Grant & Pritchard. Everyone else is completely expendable IMO, and I would gladly ship off any of them to get a shooter who'd open up the floor for the core group. Don't even have to touch the TPE -- just throw like Ben McLemore or Wayne Ellington out there, and it'd make a huge difference.

 

[the Q]

He's going to shake it up regardless given the TPE, which has to be used by December. But my guess is that the core 3 (Tatum, Brown & Smart) are close to untradeable, and that Kemba is unlikely to be traded regardless given his age and contract.

Of the rest of the team the ones I hope he keeps are Theis, Grant & Pritchard. Everyone else is completely expendable IMO, and I would gladly ship off any of them to get a shooter who'd open up the floor for the core group. Don't even have to touch the TPE -- just throw like Ben McLemore or Wayne Ellington out there, and it'd make a huge difference.

The Knicks waived Ellington, they could’ve gotten him real cheap and Danny chose not to.

I think smart is 100% on the table.

Theis I expect to be dealt at the deadline since he’s a fa at the end of the year and this is already a tax paying team next year with tatum’s extension kicking in.

A stretch 4 would be nice. Someone like Larry nance jr.

I’m also a fan of getting richaun Holmes as they need more beef to bang with embiid.

 

[aceboon]

Beat me to it. There is some real recency bias when people act like he was bad in the playoffs last year. He struggled against Miami, which obviously sticks in peoples' heads, but he was still their second best playoff performer overall last year behind Tatum by pretty much any advanced metric.

This year is concerning so far, but I think he'll figure it out. If he could perform well in the playoffs pre-surgery, I would expect that post-surgery this year he should do at least as well. So far that hasn't been the case but I'm hoping it is just some extended rust since he couldn't practice at all this offseason. Hayward wasn't initially great when he came back from his various injuries, either.

I forgot when it comes to the NBA this board doesn't actually watch the games, he wasn't better than Jaylen Brown last year in the playoffs, Tatum and Brown were the 2 best Celtics and no calculator can tell me otherwise.

 

[NYConnMan]

I forgot when it comes to the NBA this board doesn't actually watch the games, he wasn't better than Jaylen Brown last year in the playoffs, Tatum and Brown were the 2 best Celtics and no calculator can tell me otherwise.

I watch every game but keep being snarky. Brown is my favorite Celtic, so I don't know why you're acting like I'm trying to slight him. He may have been better in the playoffs last year - neither your eyes or statistics provide that data conclusively - but it wasn't by any exceptional amount, unlike Tatum.

Basically it went:
1 - Tatum
2a/2b - Brown/Kemba

Kemba = 19.6/4.1/5.1 with a 2.6 A/TO ratio & On-Off +3.4
Brown = 21.8/7.5/2.3 with a 0.96 A/TO ratio & On-Off -4.7

Have a great day, though.

 

[Dove]

I watched a little bit of the Cs game earlier this week. Kemba's shooting was off, for sure, but he was very active. I have no clue what his defense is like and it's the NBA so who cares.

He didn't look cooked.