2021 Recruiting: Initial Recruiting Targets

[bendm]

 

[MuchoDogYears]

Big time pass on Ellis. Watch the video. Doesn’t matter where he gets the ball, he never, ever looks at any of his teammates. Has no idea where any are on the court. Once he gets the ball it’s not leaving his hands.

I get it’s a highlight video, it’s supposed to be all about him taking and making shots. But still...there’s just something totally myopic about the way he plays.

 

[UofCT]

Big time pass on Ellis. Watch the video. Doesn’t matter where he gets the ball, he never, ever looks at any of his teammates. Has no idea where any are on the court. Once he gets the ball it’s not leaving his hands.

I get it’s a highlight video, it’s supposed to be all about him taking and making shots. But still...there’s just something totally myopic about the way he plays.

Maybe his teammates suck

 

[bendm]

Once he gets the ball it’s not leaving his hands.

he averages almost 5 APG and he's a SG not a PG

 

[MuchoDogYears]

he averages almost 5 APG and he's a SG not a PG

Ok. And I get it’s a highlight video.

But what team player gets the ball, time after time, 15 feet outside the 3 point line and spends the next 15 seconds dribbling here, there, everywhere without once looking up, until he finally shoots a jumper or drives to the hoop.

I can’t quite put my finger on it but I don’t like what I see. Just a feeling. Pass.

 

[husky429]

Ok. And I get it’s a highlight video. But what team player gets the ball, time after time, 15 feet outside the 3 point line and spends the next 15 dribbling here, there, everywhere without once looking up, until he finally shoots a jumper or drives to the hoop.

I can’t quite put my finger on it but I don’t like what I see. Just a feeling. Pass.

This video has passing in it, unlike the others. Might make an impact on your opinion

Peep the 360 dunk at 3:28 if nothing else!

 

[MuchoDogYears]

This video has passing in it, unlike the others. Might make an impact on your opinion

Peep the 360 dunk at 3:28 if nothing else!

You’re right, it shows some interest in passing, seeing other players on the floor.

End of day, I trust DH and his staff.

 

[RichZ]

El Ellis was thought to be a heavy Louisville lean he’s coached/mentored by a Louisville native and team fan but with the notice of allegations no one knows what’s going to happen. If y’all haven’t seen this kid, he’s unbelievably talented. Best JUCO guard in the country.

I'm sure a shooting coach would criticize his 3 point form. Little follow through on the stroke, and he has a weird bend at the hip, swing both legs forward deal going on in the lower end. But he gets the shot off quickly, with a pretty high release point, and the form is consistent. Just about every 3 he shoots looks just like every other three he shoots. And it's very hard to argue with his 3 point percentage.

 

[Chief00]

DeMartha is Kenya’s territory.

 

[superjohn]

As a big "Cheese" fan, I take offense to this comparison. I thought he was the best East Side guy!

Dude, Prop Joe easily. Cheese was a punk.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Dude, Prop Joe easily. Cheese was a punk.

Slim Charles's best moment was killing Cheese for Joe.

 

[CbbisGreat]

Jimmy likes Elaine

 

[Mr. French]

Dude, Prop Joe easily. Cheese was a punk.

Punk, maybe ... but I can still like him as a character. And Prop Joe is great, but he's too easy an answer. I always liked Cheese.

 

[Mr. French]

Valchek’s hood is Southeast Baltimore - Chief is WestSide.

Great point, Chief. Agreed. You clearly mentioned West Side.

 

[HooperScooper]

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[businesslawyer]

DeMartha is Kenya’s territory.

In the DMV, the Demartha was married to the Degeorge.

 

[bendm]

EDITED- updated 247 composite rankings (offers in bold)

1. Jonathan Kuminga- SF- NJ (UConn not in top 10)
7. AJ Griffin- SF- NY (Duke Commit)
8. Mousse Cisse- PF- TN (UConn not in top 6)
15. Aminu Mohammed- SF- DC (100% Louisville)
18. Trevor Keels- SG- VA (100% Virginia)
21. Hunter Sallis- CG- NE
22. Efton Reid- C- VA
25. Franck Kepnang- C- PA
28. Jalen Warley- CG- PA
37. Trey Patterson- SF- NJ
47. Quincy Allen- SF- DC
50. Benny Williams- SF- MD (UConn not in top 4)
51. Roosevelt Wheeler- C- VA
53. Rahsool Diggins- PG- PA
57. Micawber Etienne- C- CT
60. Jordan Longino- SG- PA (100% Villanova)
61. Jordan Hawkins- SG- MD
84. Nnana Njoku- C- DE (Villanova Commit)
86. Jakai Robinson- SG- MD (100% Seton Hall)
93. Shane Dezonie- SG- NJ
98. Erik Reynolds- CG- MD
101. Stevie Mitchell- PG- PA
103. John Camden- SF- PA
104. Julian Reese- PF- MD (Maryland Commit)
111. Bensley Joseph- PG- MA
124. Gabe Wiznitzer- PF- VA
125. Brayon Freeman- PG- VA
127 Ryan Conway- PG- MD (Seton Hall Commit)
129. Bretner Mutombo- C- NJ
136. Jalen Ricks- SG- VA (100% Arkansas)
137. Jaylen Murray- PG- CT
139. Jaylen Blakes- PG- NJ
144. Casey Simmons- SG- MA
158. Elijah Hutchins Everett- C- NJ
161. Akoldah Gak- PF- NJ

NR- Samson Johnson- PF- NJ
NR- Nate Santos- SF- CT
NR- Sean Durugordon- SF- CT
NR- Madison Peaster- PG- AR

JUCO- El Ellis- CG- FL

 

[husky429]

EDITED- updated 247 composite rankings (offers in bold)

1. Jonathan Kuminga- SF- NJ (UConn not in top 10)
7. AJ Griffin- SF- NY (Duke Commit)
8. Mousse Cisse- PF- TN (UConn not in top 6)
15. Aminu Mohammed- SF- DC (100% Louisville)
18. Trevor Keels- SG- VA (100% Virginia)
21. Hunter Sallis- PG- NE
22. Efton Reid- C- VA
25. Franck Kepnang- C- PA
28. Jalen Warley- CG- PA
37. Trey Patterson- SF- NJ
47. Quincy Allen- SF- DC
50. Benny Williams- SF- MD
51. Roosevelt Wheeler- C- VA
53. Rahsool Diggins- PG- PA
57. Micawber Etienne- C- CT
60. Jordan Longino- SG- PA (100% Villanova)
61. Jordan Hawkins- SG- MD
84. Nnana Njoku- C- DE (Villanova Commit)
86. Jakai Robinson- SG- MD (100% Seton Hall)
93. Shane Dezonie- SG- NJ
98. Erik Reynolds- CG- MD
101. Stevie Mitchell- PG- PA
103. John Camden- SF- PA
104. Julian Reese- PF- MD (Maryland Commit)
111. Bensley Joseph- PG- MA
124. Gabe Wiznitzer- PF- VA
125. Brayon Freeman- PG- VA
127 Ryan Conway- PG- MD (Seton Hall Commit)
129. Bretner Mutombo- C- NJ
136. Jalen Ricks- SG- VA (100% Arkansas)
137. Jaylen Murray- PG- CT
139. Jaylen Blakes- PG- NJ
144. Casey Simmons- SG- MA
158. Elijah Hutchins Everett- C- NJ
161. Akoldah Gak- PF- NJ

NR- Samson Johnson- PF- NJ
NR- Nate Santos- SF- CT
NR- Sean Durugordon- SF- CT
NR- Madison Peaster- PG- AR

JUCO- El Ellis- SG- FL

Kenya is due for a receuiting coup. I think he reels in Sallis or one of the DMV kids.

Ellis
Sallis
Hawkins
Patterson
Mac

That's my dream class, even though it might leave us short on the wings.

I do think Durugordon is going to blow up this summer, or will if AAU happens. He is a versatile beast that can shoot.

 

[bendm]

Ellis/Sallis/Hawkins/Patterson/Mac

5 player class? no pure PGs? sallis and ellis are both combos and Hawkins is a SG, correct?

I think Sallis to Creighton and Diggins to Nova.

Rivals lists Patterson at 6'8 210 so i like him as a 3/4 stretch. Otherwise it's down to Gak and Samson at the 4.

Just my gut feeling:
PG- Freeman or Blakes
CG- Ellis
F- Patterson
C- Etienne

 

[husky429]

5 player class? no pure PGs? sallis and ellis are both combos and Hawkins is a SG, correct?

Rivals lists Patterson at 6'8 210 so i like him as a 3/4 stretch. Otherwise it's down to Gak and Samson

Just my gut feeling:
PG- Freeman
CG- Ellis
F- Patterson
C- Etienne

I mean obviously you take talent when they want to commit, but I don't think we *need* a pure point with RJ being a senior and Gaffney a junior when these guys come in. Seems to me a combo-guard/2-guard (or two) to compliment our bigger wings (Jackson, Martin) is more of a priority. I think we also have a need for one more big man since Sanogo and Javonte Brown Ferguson will be our only Cs, with Richie maybe able to play some too.

I don't think we've been associated with Freeman since last August. Blakes is probably the more realistic 3-star guard if you're going to go that route. Not super sure though

I don't think Gak is good enough for the level we intend to play at by 2021. Samson seems like project player with super high potential to me. But I watched maybe 4 patrick school games and wasn't wow'd with any of his performances. Good shotblocking and athleticism. But basically 0 offensive skill. He's a lot like Akok-lite.

Springs playing big, Martin/Jackson in small-ball lineups, plus whatever big wing we can find will likely be our 4 rotation. Patterson would fit the need pretty well. I've read he's 6'7-6'8 and anywhere from 170-210lbs. Looks to me like the more recent updates have him at 202 and 207 though. Good size for a 3/stretch-4 combo.

 

[8893]

The real question is, if Chief were a wire character, which character would he be?

I'm going with Herc or Landsman.

 

[bendm]

Seems to me a combo-guard/2-guard (or two) to compliment our bigger wings (Jackson, Martin) is more of a priority.

We agree on Ellis/Patterson/Mac

But between Gaffney and Ellis you'd have two combo guards, and Hurley envisions AJ developing his guard skills as well.

Personal preference- to round out the class I'd favor a borderline 4* PG that sticks around for four years like Freeman/Blakes. an upperclassman PG is the single most important piece of a chip team so all else equal i'll take a pure PG over a CG (unless the CG can truly run the offense like Gaffney)

PS- why isnt this Wire discussion happening in an OT thread?

 

[Mr. French]

I'm going with Herc or Landsman.

I was going to say Herc initially, but it didn't feel "right." Landsman, definitely. That's a great one.

I don't see Chief as a small, pipsqueak type, but I still feel Ziggy is up there with his personality traits and wanting to be the MAN.

 

[MDHuskFan]

Can anyone tell me what happened with JuJu Murray? Kid just seemed like a DH Fatts Russell mood undersized bucket getter. I remember him attending games and coaches going to his high school, but not much beyond that

 

[8893]

I was going to say Herc initially, but it didn't feel "right." Landsman, definitely. That's a great one.

I don't see Chief as a small, pipsqueak type, but I still feel Ziggy is up there with his personality traits and wanting to be the MAN.

Yeah, Herc is probably too young for Chief. I didn't like him initially but he has shown a few redeeming qualities, especially when he refused to help Carver move the dead body.

I think Carver and Landsman are the only characters I don't like. Ziggy drove me crazy and I wanted to kill him, but he was necessary. Valchek I love just because he's so classic. I was stunned when Pres popped him. Great scene.