If college football breaks off from the rest of the NCAA...

[shizzle787]

each sport should be run by a separate organization:

The NCAA should run men's and women's basketball only.
At this point, it can keep three divisions or split into 4-5 divisions.

The USSF should run college soccer.

USA Hockey should run college hockey.

USA Baseball should run college baseball.

Tennis and golf could be run by the U.S. IOC.

This in my opinion would allow schools to pick which sports they value and leave the rest to club status.

It would also mean that realignment moves in football have no effect on any other sport.

 

[Husky68]

Why not have the WNBA run college basketball?

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

each sport should be run by a separate organization:

The NCAA should run men's and women's basketball only.
At this point, it can keep three divisions or split into 4-5 divisions.

The USSF should run college soccer.

USA Hockey should run college hockey.

USA Baseball should run college baseball.

Tennis and golf could be run by the U.S. IOC.

This in my opinion would allow schools to pick which sports they value and leave the rest to club status.

It would also mean that realignment moves in football have no effect on any other sport.

Schools have choice today which sports they want to sponsor... So, under your scenario what happens to Title IX and the protections to women's sports?

 

[Bobol]

If the power football schools break of then that coalition will also take Mens basketball because of the money the successor to the NCAA tournament will generate.

 

[shizzle787]

Schools have choice today which sports they want to sponsor... So, under your scenario what happens to Title IX and the protections to women's sports?

The total number of scholarships across all organizations needs to be in compliance with Title IX.

 

[Billy Jack]

If the power football schools break of then that coalition will also take Mens basketball because of the money the successor to the NCAA tournament will generate.

How are they going to manage to do that?

 

[hoopsfan22]

How are they going to manage to do that?

The same way they will with football. They will have their own post-season and whoever wins it will be the de facto national champion. The NCAA tourney would simply be relegated to NIT status.

 

[Billy Jack]

The same way they will with football. They will have their own post-season and whoever wins it will be the de facto national champion. The NCAA tourney would simply be relegated to NIT status.

Nope. The P2 can set up their own national championship bowl in football and have credibility in doing it because 17 of the last 20 national champions in football has come from one of these 2 conferences as now reconstructed.

However, that is not the case in basketball. Just the opposite. In fact, P2 have won only 3 national champions in basketball over the past 20 years - Florida (2006-07) and Kentucky (2012). Not a single NC from the B1G in that period. The P2 would have no credibility if they run their own tournament and try to pawn off one of their schools as the true NC.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

The total number of scholarships across all organizations needs to be in compliance with Title IX.

Right, so it would be the same choices today - as schools decide what is a scholarship sport versus a club sport on their campus. Not sure how that's any different than today in your future scenario of having the outside sports bodies/organizations run the various sports?

 

[hoopsfan22]

Nope. The P2 can set up their own national championship bowl in football and have credibility in doing it because 17 of the last 20 national champions in football has come from one of these 2 conferences as now reconstructed.

However, that is not the case in basketball. Just the opposite. In fact, P2 have won only 3 national champions in basketball over the past 20 years - Florida (2006-07) and Kentucky (2012). Not a single NC from the B1G in that period. The P2 would have no credibility if they run their own tournament and try to pawn off one of their schools as the true NC.

You're just nervous because deep down you know what everyone else on the outside looking in knows. That's why it's always "they won't do that with basketball" as they nervously look around the room. Basketball isn't any more special than football. Get over it.

 

[Billy Jack]

You're just nervous because deep down you know what everyone else on the outside looking in knows. That's why it's always "they won't do that with basketball" as they nervously look around the room. Basketball isn't any more special than football. Get over it.

No. I’m saying they won’t be able to do that. It won’t work.

We disagree. I’ll leave it at that.

 

[superjohn]

If the power football schools break of then that coalition will also take Mens basketball because of the money the successor to the NCAA tournament will generate.

It's hard to believe they would be that stupid but nothing surprises me anymore.

 

[CL82]

It's hard to believe they would be that stupid but nothing surprises me anymore.

Why stupid?

 

[superjohn]

Why stupid?

Because the underdog is what makes the tournament. Keeping out all the smaller schools and keeping out a bunch of the best basketball schools would destroy what makes it great.

 

[CL82]

Because the underdog is what makes the tournament. Keeping out all the smaller schools and keeping out a bunch of the best basketball schools would destroy what makes it great.

Got it. Wouldn’t the underdog always be the lowest seeds in any tournament though?

 

[superjohn]

Got it. Wouldn’t the underdog always be the lowest seeds in any tournament though?

People around the country don't care about all the crappy major University basketball teams making the tournament, that's what the Big 10 and SEC conference tournaments are for. They care about St. Peter's, George Mason, VCU and every other little guy having a chance to knock off Kentucky.

 

[Urcea]

People around the country don't care about all the crappy major University basketball teams making the tournament, that's what the Big 10 and SEC conference tournaments are for. They care about St. Peter's, George Mason, VCU and every other little guy having a chance to knock off Kentucky.

I’m also inclined to believe that the power two doesn’t have enough brown power on its own in terms of basketball to carry a national product

 

[Viet Vet]

Why not have the WNBA run college basketball?

The WNBA would die without NBA subsidies. Without Title IX, most women's college basketball programs would as well.

 

[businesslawyer]

The total number of scholarships across all organizations needs to be in compliance with Title IX.

It’s not just numbers. If different organizations are in charge of different sports, the equality of opportunity that Title IX requires would be impossible to achieve.

 

[ScottVib]

People around the country don't care about all the crappy major University basketball teams making the tournament, that's what the Big 10 and SEC conference tournaments are for. They care about St. Peter's, George Mason, VCU and every other little guy having a chance to knock off Kentucky.

This drives the first weekend.... after that the ratings demonstrate that the major conference teams are the draws.

 

[Husky68]

The WNBA would die without NBA subsidies. Without Title IX, most women's college basketball programs would as well.

I think my comment went over your head.

 

[CL82]

It’s not just numbers. If different organizations are in charge of different sports, the equality of opportunity that Title IX requires would be impossible to achieve.

How so? Title IX just requires that the institution treat male and female athletes equally. It’s a question of the application of University resources. The vagaries of membership in different conferences are irrelevant so long is the University allocate resources equally.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

One thing that we will never need to worry about is football breaking off from the NCAA.

What we do need to worry about is if (with some time and their advantage in resources) is if the big 2 conferences reach the point where they hold a significant enough portion of the top basketball schools that they can break off from the NCAA (as conferences) and have the general public believe that the best football and basketball is played by those schools, not the schools who are still in the NCAA.

 

[Billy Jack]

This drives the first weekend.... after that the ratings demonstrate that the major conference teams are the draws.

It also drives wagering, which reflects the public fascination with this event as it is currently fashioned. “Hoosiers” still lives in this tournament.

 

[huskymedic]