Aluminny69
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"Golf is one of those unique sports where strength or size makes little difference."
Wie was very, very good when younger--but she was playing against girls her age and then against all amateurs. She was one of the best female teenage golfers ever. At age 28, Michelle now has 4 LPGA wins. Annika retired at age 38 to start a family. She had 73 LPGA wins and seemed like a sure bet to break the all-time record if she had played a few more years.At the time that Wie was offered to play in a men's tourney. She was pretty damn good. The initial part of her career mental issues outside of the ropes plagued her inside of the ropes. While she was playing well she could post a respectable score hitting from the men's tees.
I performed a few stat analysis and there are quite a few out there. What really separates the women's game from the men's game is not so much about length. There are quite a few short course tourneys and short knockers (e.g.C.Pavin, F.Funk) where there is overlap between the long hitters on the women's tour and the short knockers on the men's tour. It is the differences in the short game that really set apart the men from the women at the elite level.
The putting percentages, up/downs, sand saves all show just how really good that even the very bottom ranked PGA tour players are compared to the top level females. All of that is an aside.
(Amateur level) There are women out there who can compete every bit with many/not all amateur men.
If she wants to lace them up and play with me. Let's do it. If she beats me (or you) she is just the better golfer.
Length is not the end all be all. Next time you play move up a tee and see how different your scores are. Good amateur women can play very competitively at ~6000yrds.
It is my understanding that in Mass the boys play in the Fall and the girls play in the Spring. So she can get her trophy in the spring if she wins. I guess they allow the girls to play in the Fall with the boys. Our town has a couple girls playing in the Fall season on the boys team.
Thanks for that info. So, does that mean that girls can play and compete for their H.S. boys team in the Fall, they just can't play in the final Tournament? Or, in this case, girls can play in the final Tournament, they just can't get a trophy? ( IOW take a trophy away from a boy.)It is my understanding that in Mass the boys play in the Fall and the girls play in the Spring. So she can get her trophy in the spring if she wins. I guess they allow the girls to play in the Fall with the boys. Our town has a couple girls playing in the Fall season on the boys team.
I'm not sure. Haven't looked that far into it. In our West Regional it looks like the girl for our school came in 2nd, but they don't have her as "Qualifying" for State. Not sure how all this works. Girls Golf looks like it is in the Spring, but it doesn't look like we have a Golf Team in the spring?? Have to look further into MIAA rules and such.Thanks for that info. So, does that mean that girls can play and compete for their H.S. boys team in the Fall, they just can't play in the final Tournament? Or, in this case, girls can play in the final Tournament, they just can't get a trophy? ( IOW take a trophy away from a boy.)
Michelle was beyond unrealistic. She needed to beat the female pros first, before thinking of competing against men. Annika was a dominant player. Michelle hits the ball a long way, but she’s far from dominant.
Great post +1!She missed the cut by one shot at the 2004 Sony Open when she was only 14. It wasn't *that* unrealistic.
I wasn't aware that she was that close. Plus, I just read that she missed another cut by 2 stokes. Both of those are obviously impressive. But the clear point is that Annika dominated the best women in the world, whereas Michelle dominated only the amateur women and women her age. For Annika, playing in a PGA event seemed like the next step. For Michelle, it seemed as if she was skipping a step. My expectations for Michelle were to be the female version of Tiger. At some point, her improvement slowed substantially.She missed the cut by one shot at the 2004 Sony Open when she was only 14. It wasn't *that* unrealistic.