Big East Media Deal vs. Other Power Conferences' Media Deals

[WestCoastHusky]

This is a great breakdown article with an UConn mention.

How does the the Big East TV contract compare to other power conferences?

Where does the conference’s newest deal with FOX, NBC, and TNT put it relative to its peers in high major basketball?

painttouches.com

 

[NowInStorrs]

Unfortunately the Big East media deal for football sucks.

 

[billybud]

I can't figure the amounts in the chart's revenue distributions...I think it makes more sense to compare yearly revenue payouts....because of different contract periods.

Example...$17 million per team listed as ACC...yet 2022-23 revenue distribution was almost $45 million per team..

"The ACC generated a record $706.6 million in gross revenue in 2022-23, distributing an average of $44.8 million to its 14 football-playing members."

Most conferences values are listed starting in contracts beginning in 2023, 2024, and for the BE, 2025. The ACC's contract is listed as beginning 2015. The ACC revenue distribution for 2015-16 was $23.8 million. Per school payout increased $20 million per school in seven years.

Just noodling

 

[CJasmer]

I can't figure the amounts in the chart's revenue distributions...I think it makes more sense to compare yearly revenue payouts....because of different contract periods.

Example...$17 million per team listed as ACC...yet 2022-23 revenue distribution was almost $45 million per team..

"The ACC generated a record $706.6 million in gross revenue in 2022-23, distributing an average of $44.8 million to its 14 football-playing members."

Most conferences values are listed starting in contracts beginning in 2023, 2024, and for the BE, 2025. The ACC's contract is listed as beginning 2015. The ACC revenue distribution for 2015-16 was $23.8 million. Per school payout increased $20 million per school in seven years.

Just noodling

I agree the comparison should be TV contracts for 2024. I would also make an adjustment for Basketball only being 15% to 20% of the TV contracts for the P4 and then do the comparison to Big East. If 15% is the number then Big East will be close to P4 numbers for basket for Big 12 and ACC. P2 would still be much higher if you also use 15% of P2 TV contract is for basketball but again basketball might be less than 15% of the TV contract for P2.

 

[ScottVib]

If you compare total revenue payouts you end up throwing in tournament credits plus football playoff and bowl distributions. Since they’re specifically trying to compare tv deals to assess the new Big East deal that has to be omitted.

Ultimately it reads like a conference PR piece trying to prove to fans the Big East did well with this deal (it did), after much higher numbers were leaked (essentially hey UConn (fans) look no further, the Big East got you a big payday; knowing that, the payday would’ve been crushed without the Huskies).

 

[CJasmer]

If you compare total revenue payouts you end up throwing in tournament credits plus football playoff and bowl distributions. Since they’re specifically trying to compare tv deals to assess the new Big East deal that has to be omitted.

Ultimately it reads like a conference PR piece trying to prove to fans the Big East did well with this deal (it did), after much higher numbers were leaked (essentially hey UConn (fans) look no further, the Big East got you a big payday; knowing that, the payday would’ve been crushed without the Huskies).

I agree but we know that even TV Contract amounts are heavily weighted to football. You need to make an assumption of how much TV contract is tied to basketball. I have heard anywhere between 15% to 20% of the TV Contract for P4. I think you do that the Big East which only has basketball does not have a bad TV contract. It is only bad for UConn since they have FBS team. For rest of Big East that only has basketball it is a good deal.

 

[jostar1]

I can't figure the amounts in the chart's revenue distributions...I think it makes more sense to compare yearly revenue payouts....because of different contract periods.

Example...$17 million per team listed as ACC...yet 2022-23 revenue distribution was almost $45 million per team..

"The ACC generated a record $706.6 million in gross revenue in 2022-23, distributing an average of $44.8 million to its 14 football-playing members."

Most conferences values are listed starting in contracts beginning in 2023, 2024, and for the BE, 2025. The ACC's contract is listed as beginning 2015. The ACC revenue distribution for 2015-16 was $23.8 million. Per school payout increased $20 million per school in seven years.

Just noodling

Also, I don't think it includes money from the ACC Network.

 

[jostar1]

 

[nelsonmuntz]

If you compare total revenue payouts you end up throwing in tournament credits plus football playoff and bowl distributions. Since they’re specifically trying to compare tv deals to assess the new Big East deal that has to be omitted.

Ultimately it reads like a conference PR piece trying to prove to fans the Big East did well with this deal (it did), after much higher numbers were leaked (essentially hey UConn (fans) look no further, the Big East got you a big payday; knowing that, the payday would’ve been crushed without the Huskies).

We are not in the Big 10. We get it.

 

[CashewCrew]

Quite different than the $3M/year Paint Touches outlined in their article.

 

[How Sway?!]

Quite different than the $3M/year Paint Touches outlined in their article.

Pretty sure the bulk of that is ACC network payments

 

[jostar1]

Quite different than the $3M/year Paint Touches outlined in their article.

That's probably why Brian Murphy tweeted it the same day as the Paint Touches article. In fairness to the Paint Touches article, he was just comparing media contracts.

 

[CJasmer]

We are not in the Big 10. We get it.

I think for Big East basketball only TV contract is pretty competitive to P4. Most of the money for the P4 TV contract is for football. Need to compare apples to apples.

 

[freescooter]

Quite different than the $3M/year Paint Touches outlined in their article.

According to most other sources ND now gets $17 million from the ACC media deal. Excluding stuff like tournament credits.

 

[freescooter]

Sounds like it was written by a League spokesman to show what a great job they did. All nonsense. Took one Big 10 team and assumed it was the model for 4 leagues. It is highly possible that Michigan State IS reflective of the Big10. But Notre Dame attributes 30% of its ACC media deal to basketball which could very well be reasonable for the ACC, a more basketball-centric league with multiple blue blood members and several next tier programs.The B 12 might well be somewhere in the middle, 25% perhaps. In that case it is a sad deal. As my high school math teacher used to say, figures don’t lie but liars sure figure. Without much more research and analysis, hard to say this is a good or a bad deal. But then, consider even if correct, Rutgers and Vanderbilt earn way more than UConn. From Basketball!