April 2021 Recruiting Thread

[cancontent]

That’s not true. With all the scorers we will have, sometimes we only need a good defender rebounder, shot blocker and a hustle player in AG

Good point. Look at Robinson at Louisville. She makes a lot of contributions beyond scoring that moved her into their starting line up.

 

[Alydar]

The ball never got stuck with Kiah. She knew where and when to pass the ball. Aubrey gets stuck out of position a lot; when she gets the ball she usually makes a mad dash to the basket, making 52% of her shots. In Kiah’s sophomore year, she didn’t take many shots, true, but she made 66% of them when she did. Kiah’s greatest contribution was holding down opponents’ scoring in the paint, reducing them to jump shooters but Aubrey doesn’t really scare anyone. I used to laugh watching opponents do a U turn when they saw Kiah in front of them. She was on the conference All-Freshman team for her dominance in the paint.

I can’t think of any universe where a comparison of Kelly Faris to Aubrey Griffin is applicable. Comparing sophomore seasons:

Points. Aubrey 6.2, Kelly 7.8
FG% . AG 52%, KF 42.5%
3 pt FG%. AG 15%, KF 31%
Rebounds. AG 4.8, KF 6.7
Assists. AG 1.1, KF 3.7
Steals. AG .8, KF 1.8
Blocks. AG .8, KF .6

Most importantly, Kelly was a facilitator in the offense. She never hesitated, never stood with the ball trying to figure out what to do next. The offense flowed with her on the court.

I love Aubrey’s effort and some of the incredible defensive plays she’s had but the offense comes to a screeching halt with her on the court. Unless she can score on a fast break, I dont’ have a lot of confidence in her ability to get the ball in the basket. That HAS to change or teams will double Paige.

You listed a lot of stats but failed to give us how many minutes they each averaged. Faris averaged 33+ while Griffin averaged 17, roughly twice the minutes for Faris. That makes most of your comparison stats look differently. Faris averaged a point and a half more/game in twice the minutes.
I'd say that Griffin actually looks better than Faris statistically if you were to convert those numbers into per 40 stats.

UConn was also very short-handed in 2011. Of the 10 player roster three ( Heather Buck, Lauren Engeln & Michala Johnson) didn't play. And Doty was limited in minutes due to her damaged knee. So UConn was a 6.5 player rotation.

In the real universe I think Griffin compares very favorably to Faris.

 

[Go/huskies]

You listed a lot of stats but failed to give us how many minutes they each averaged. Faris averaged 33+ while Griffin averaged 17, roughly twice the minutes for Faris. That makes most of your comparison stats look differently. Faris averaged a point and a half more/game in twice the minutes.
I'd say that Griffin actually looks better than Faris statistically if you were to convert those numbers into per 40 stats.

UConn was also very short-handed in 2011. Of the 10 player roster three ( Heather Buck, Lauren Engeln & Michala Johnson) didn't play. And Doty was limited in minutes due to her damaged knee. So UConn was a 6.5 player rotation.

In the real universe I think Griffin compares very favorably to Faris.

I was going to say the same thing, I wanted to see minutes played for each player, also Griffin would have likely been a starter on that team as well.

 

[UcMiami]

You listed a lot of stats but failed to give us how many minutes they each averaged. Faris averaged 33+ while Griffin averaged 17, roughly twice the minutes for Faris. That makes most of your comparison stats look differently. Faris averaged a point and a half more/game in twice the minutes.
I'd say that Griffin actually looks better than Faris statistically if you were to convert those numbers into per 40 stats.

UConn was also very short-handed in 2011. Of the 10 player roster three ( Heather Buck, Lauren Engeln & Michala Johnson) didn't play. And Doty was limited in minutes due to her damaged knee. So UConn was a 6.5 player rotation.

In the real universe I think Griffin compares very favorably to Faris.

I was going to say the same thing, I wanted to see minutes played for each player, also Griffin would have likely been a starter on that team as well.

You can break it down all sorts of ways, but the fact is Geno trusted Faris from the first day she arrived on campus, and he has yet to trust Griffin. During her freshman year Geno said of Faris 'I doubt she will ever play a bad game at Uconn.' As Nan pointed out, the offense crashes when Griffin is on the court. She creates mostly good chaos when she plays defense and mostly bad chaos on offense. (FYI - I notice more blown assignments when she plays defense, where two people end up guarding one player and another is left wide open.)

Kelly was playing against starters and was mostly off the floor in garbage time. Griffin played a much large portion of her minutes after the game was decided.

 

[Purchase1]

How’d this go from a recruiting thread to Aubrey Griffin v. Kelly Farris?

 

[CocoHusky]

How’d this go from a recruiting thread to Aubrey Griffin v. Kelly Farris?

It is the BY way and Kelly Farris is my 2nd favorite all time.

 

[Sluconn Husky]

4/15

Isuneh Brady:

8 points, 9 rebounds, 6 blocks

 

[Go/huskies]

4/15

Isuneh Brady:

8 points, 9 rebounds, 6 blocks

I’m looking forward to seeing Brady play in college, watching the WNBA draft highlights last night , had me wondering if she has a similar skill set to Jasmine Walker from Alabama.

 

[MilfordHusky]

4/15

Isuneh Brady:

8 points, 9 rebounds, 6 blocks

A triple-single?

 

[donalddoowop]

That’s not true. With all the scorers we will have, sometimes we only need a good defender rebounder, shot blocker and a hustle player in AG

That won't work for some Boneyarders. For them UConn MUST have five scorers on the court at all times, otherwise it will be four against five, as if all other teams will have five scorers on the floor at all times.

 

[BobbyJ]

I’m looking forward to seeing Brady play in college, watching the WNBA draft highlights last night , had me wondering if she has a similar skill set to Jasmine Walker from Alabama.

IMO, Walker is a smooth, finesse type perimeter player who’s an outstanding shooter and can rebound a little. Brady is a big, physical kid with excellent post up skills and is a very comparable shooter to Walker. Brady can bang and score inside plus drag a big outside and bury it from 17 and 3s. The position ONO has been playing on the high post is custom made for Brady.

 

[HopJim]

You listed a lot of stats but failed to give us how many minutes they each averaged. Faris averaged 33+ while Griffin averaged 17, roughly twice the minutes for Faris. That makes most of your comparison stats look differently. Faris averaged a point and a half more/game in twice the minutes.
I'd say that Griffin actually looks better than Faris statistically if you were to convert those numbers into per 40 stats.

UConn was also very short-handed in 2011. Of the 10 player roster three ( Heather Buck, Lauren Engeln & Michala Johnson) didn't play. And Doty was limited in minutes due to her damaged knee. So UConn was a 6.5 player rotation.

In the real universe I think Griffin compares very favorably to Faris.

Per Nan's solid assessment, there is no real reason to ever compare Griffin to Kelly (or most UConn players). Kelly was the glue for her team - she needed to play as many minutes as possible. Griffin is a specialist - in most games we don't need her defensive and hustle skills. With so much talent the upcoming 3+ years, just sit back and enjoy!

 

[cbraarj]

I was going to say the same thing, I wanted to see minutes played for each player, also Griffin would have likely been a starter on that team as well.

With Dolson, Maya, Hayes, Faris and Hartley there is no way Griffin starts for that team.

 

[cbraarj]

You can break it down all sorts of ways, but the fact is Geno trusted Faris from the first day she arrived on campus, and he has yet to trust Griffin. During her freshman year Geno said of Faris 'I doubt she will ever play a bad game at Uconn.' As Nan pointed out, the offense crashes when Griffin is on the court. She creates mostly good chaos when she plays defense and mostly bad chaos on offense. (FYI - I notice more blown assignments when she plays defense, where two people end up guarding one player and another is left wide open.)

Kelly was playing against starters and was mostly off the floor in garbage time. Griffin played a much large portion of her minutes after the game was decided.

I like that good and bad chaos. On defense I have seen the blown defense assignments especially on weakside help rotation.

 

[Reypl21]

I'm not sure how this became a Griffin vs Faris thread, but I'll put my word in. I think people are making this comparison because both players are known for making plays on the defensive end. From what I remember, Faris wasnt an offensive juggernaut but she was serviceable. She was definitely a glue player, and she made the right decisions in UConn's offense. Stats are what they are, but Griffin is not the same player Faris was. Faris had a high basketball IQ on the offensive end. Like many posters have said, Uconn's offense isn't as good when Griffin is in the game. I'm not sure if she will ever "get" Uconn's offense. And even if she does at some point, there's a good chance one of the underclassmen have gotten first. She may not get the chance to show it.

 

[The CDR-Ret]

So to play Devils Advocate about recruiting in general and in the future. It seems like with the transfer portal evolving as it has recruiting high school players may not be more important to some teams than getting more polished players from the portal. Why spend all the time and money to recruit a player who may never come when you have hundreds of players looking to transfer every season. Just thinking how building a team may change in the next decades..

Apparently 'Cuse with Coach Q has already jumped on this train..... in both directions simultaneously. Each year should be extremely different with them.

 

[CTisballers]

She needs to become a basketball player and not

That won't work for some Boneyarders. For them UConn MUST have five scorers on the court at all times, otherwise it will be four against five, as if all other teams will have five scorers on the floor at all times.

Kelly Ferris

 

[CTisballers]

The ball never got stuck with Kiah. She knew where and when to pass the ball. Aubrey gets stuck out of position a lot; when she gets the ball she usually makes a mad dash to the basket, making 52% of her shots. In Kiah’s sophomore year, she didn’t take many shots, true, but she made 66% of them when she did. Kiah’s greatest contribution was holding down opponents’ scoring in the paint, reducing them to jump shooters but Aubrey doesn’t really scare anyone. I used to laugh watching opponents do a U turn when they saw Kiah in front of them. She was on the conference All-Freshman team for her dominance in the paint.

I can’t think of any universe where a comparison of Kelly Faris to Aubrey Griffin is applicable. Comparing sophomore seasons:

Points. Aubrey 6.2, Kelly 7.8
FG% . AG 52%, KF 42.5%
3 pt FG%. AG 15%, KF 31%
Rebounds. AG 4.8, KF 6.7
Assists. AG 1.1, KF 3.7
Steals. AG .8, KF 1.8
Blocks. AG .8, KF .6

Most importantly, Kelly was a facilitator in the offense. She never hesitated, never stood with the ball trying to figure out what to do next. The offense flowed with her on the court.

I love Aubrey’s effort and some of the incredible defensive plays she’s had but the offense comes to a screeching halt with her on the court. Unless she can score on a fast break, I dont’ have a lot of confidence in her ability to get the ball in the basket. That HAS to change or teams will double Paige.

You also forgot to throw in the minutes played per game

 

[Go/huskies]

With Dolson, Maya, Hayes, Faris and Hartley there is no way Griffin starts for that team.

Griffin would have been a sophomore, Dolson, Faris, or Hartley would have been coming off the bench.

 

[cbraarj]

Griffin would have been a sophomore, Dolson, Faris, or Hartley would have been coming off the bench.

Faris a Sophmore and Dolson and Hartley know how to play basketball. I don't think so.

 

[cbraarj]

Kelly Ferris

Kelly didn't disrupt the offense which Aubrey does all the time. Kelly had assist and rebounds. Kelly usually guarded the opponents best player and could help bring it up against defensive pressure. She also made layups.

 

[CocoHusky]

Faris a Sophmore and Dolson and Hartley know how to play basketball. I don't think so.

UCONN actually had a pair of freshman forwards on that team that flashed great talent at UCONN before deciding to transfer. My guess is that Aubrey would have behind both Samarie Walker and Michala Johnson in that rotation. Walker in particular was a starter by game 5 of the season.

 

[cbraarj]

UCONN actually had a pair of freshman forwards on that team that flashed great talent at UCONN before deciding to transfer. My guess is that Aubrey would have behind both Samarie Walker and Michala Johnson in that rotation. Walker in particular was a starter by game 5 of the season.

Samarie was doing alright as a frosh. She even did alright against Griner that year if I remember correctly.

 

[Go/huskies]

Michala Johnson

Lol Griffin behind Johnson? Seriously?

 

[jazz]

The ball never got stuck with Kiah. She knew where and when to pass the ball. Aubrey gets stuck out of position a lot; when she gets the ball she usually makes a mad dash to the basket, making 52% of her shots. In Kiah’s sophomore year, she didn’t take many shots, true, but she made 66% of them when she did. Kiah’s greatest contribution was holding down opponents’ scoring in the paint, reducing them to jump shooters but Aubrey doesn’t really scare anyone. I used to laugh watching opponents do a U turn when they saw Kiah in front of them. She was on the conference All-Freshman team for her dominance in the paint.

I can’t think of any universe where a comparison of Kelly Faris to Aubrey Griffin is applicable. Comparing sophomore seasons:

Points. Aubrey 6.2, Kelly 7.8
FG% . AG 52%, KF 42.5%
3 pt FG%. AG 15%, KF 31%
Rebounds. AG 4.8, KF 6.7
Assists. AG 1.1, KF 3.7
Steals. AG .8, KF 1.8
Blocks. AG .8, KF .6

Most importantly, Kelly was a facilitator in the offense. She never hesitated, never stood with the ball trying to figure out what to do next. The offense flowed with her on the court.

I love Aubrey’s effort and some of the incredible defensive plays she’s had but the offense comes to a screeching halt with her on the court. Unless she can score on a fast break, I dont’ have a lot of confidence in her ability to get the ball in the basket. That HAS to change or teams will double Paige.

Earlier this year I did an analysis of point production with AG in the game and when she was out of the game. There was no discernible difference. The offense does not come to a screeching halt. It looks different and maybe not as pretty, but the overall output is the same. In fact, more often than not, the Uconn expands the lead when AG is in the game and many times the production actually increases.

Of course there are other factors involved but this is little difference in overall point production when AG is in the game.