AAC Student-Athletes Make Demands (Covid safety protocols, hazard pay, 20% revenue sharing)

[Dooooooomed]

The document begins by saying athletes within the conference “are disappointed with the way the AAC and NCAA has handled COVID-19,” and alleges that there are “gaps where institutions are grossly insufficient.” The document says, “this list of the actions must take place before we are comfortable playing football, or any sport.”

AAC Student Athletes Voice Concerns Over COVID-19 Safety, Scholarship Security and More in Proposal | Sports Illustrated

 

[Duncan Idaho]

They feel they are not being tested enough?
The schools are not telling the number of kids testing positive within the program.

 

[upstater]

They feel they are not being tested enough?
The schools are not telling the number of kids testing positive within the program.

I'm not sure what schools can say legally.

The players are obviously not being advised correctly with these demands.

BUT, they should absolutely insist on health safeguards.

 

[Watchdog]

So, if they're paid 20% of AAC revenues, would they still be considered amateurs and retain their NCAA eligibility? Or would it be considered Super Extra Full Cost of Attendance?

Looks like the pigeons are coming home to roost as a result of all the huge media contracts.

 

[Duncan Idaho]

Three starters from Maryland opting out including its Qb. Six altogether .

 

[uconndogs]

This is a nightmare for the AAC and it could very well be a contagion for all of college football. Right or wrong, a lot of these players are very concerned for their health and they are insinuating that they are being coerced into playing the season.

 

[Exit 4]

College sports is a volunteer activity... the schools have some selling to do to convince the volunteers to play. Even after we get past COVid it seems pretty likely that there will be games canceled in the future as the volunteers try sick outs to push issues. It is what it is. People gonna try to flex when they can. Results may vary, unintended consequences difficult to predict.

 

[BlueDogs]

This is the product of opportunistic interlocutors sowing seeds of discontent . All it takes is a few loud mouths and a grievance merchant to get the ball rolling. The right answer to this was the season is on, here are the terms, show up and play or don’t. Next man up. This is a generation of kids raised on soy milk and sour grapes.

 

[Waquoit]

This is the product of opportunistic interlocutors sowing seeds of discontent . All it takes is a few loud mouths and a grievance merchant to get the ball rolling. The right answer to this was the season is on, here are the terms, show up and play or don’t. Next man up. This is a generation of kids raised on soy milk and sour grapes.

Words from a bitter old man because when it was his time he didn't have the stones to stand up for better treatment. Therefore, no one should expect better treatment ever.

 

[upstater]

College sports is a volunteer activity... the schools have some selling to do to convince the volunteers to play. Even after we get past COVid it seems pretty likely that there will be games canceled in the future as the volunteers try sick outs to push issues. It is what it is. People gonna try to flex when they can. Results may vary, unintended consequences difficult to predict.

It is the wrong time to flex though, since there are massive massive cuts on the academic side. We learned that we had a 95% budget cut for our department. And everyone is asking about the budget cuts for the sacred cows.

The players are totally right that their health is at risk so that coaches and administrators can make millions. Meanwhile the schools are bleeding.

 

[Skiblets]

It is the wrong time to flex though, since there are massive massive cuts on the academic side. We learned that we had a 95% budget cut for our department. And everyone is asking about the budget cuts for the sacred cows.

The players are totally right that their health is at risk so that coaches and administrators can make millions. Meanwhile the schools are bleeding.

Does that 95 percent include all costs including tenured faculty? Not sure why we haven’t read any news about major faculty cuts at your school. That percentage is unfathomable. Need more context around that 95

 

[Bongo Fury]

Where I work they don’t cut faculty. Trades people, maintenance, food service custodial and the little guys.

 

[king conn]

They are in the wrong conference to ask for revenue sharing

Maybe they can cobble up some lunch money for them

 

[UCSouth]

Words from a bitter old man because when it was his time he didn't have the stones to stand up for better treatment. Therefore, no one should expect better treatment ever.

Please share with all the bitter old men how you see it.

 

[upstater]

Does that 95 percent include all costs including tenured faculty? Not sure why we haven’t read any news about major faculty cuts at your school. That percentage is unfathomable. Need more context around that 95

No, this is operating costs. Salaries and benefits are negotiated by the state through the union, and funded by the individual colleges. In the past, the state's only recourse to recoup money was to put us on furlough (2 weeks a year for 4 years, i.e. 2 weeks salary per year, as happened between 2009-2013). Otherwise, these are sunk costs for each school within the university (Arts & Science, Engineering, Business, etc).

The 95% reduction pertains to office operations, support staff, and most concerning, contingent faculty (ie. non-tenured faculty), not to mention support and events. Each department has money to hire people for support and for classes, but the tenured faculty (who comprise about 25% of teaching faculty) are under the union.

 

[upstater]

Where I work they don’t cut faculty. Trades people, maintenance, food service custodial and the little guys.

What about contingent faculty? ie. non-tenured.

 

[Waquoit]

Please share with all the bitter old men how you see it.

Kids today have it much rougher than the old dopes that say "This is a generation of kids raised on soy milk and sour grapes" had it.

 

[Duncan Idaho]

Things the coaches would do in two-a-days in August back in the day would be shocking on social media today.

 

[phillionaire]

This is the product of opportunistic interlocutors sowing seeds of discontent . All it takes is a few loud mouths and a grievance merchant to get the ball rolling. The right answer to this was the season is on, here are the terms, show up and play or don’t. Next man up. This is a generation of kids raised on soy milk and sour grapes.

Ok boomer

 

[Bongo Fury]

What about contingent faculty? ie. non-tenured.

It may happen but hasn’t yet. They were exempt from last rounds of mandatory furloughs. Research faculty are actually recruited to work and the University is responsible to provide appropriate lab specifications for the researchers by contract. Some faculty and majors are likely more dispensable based on lack of grants they can bring.

 

[zls44]

Things the coaches would do in two-a-days in August back in the day would be shocking on social media today.

So?

What ever happened to making things better for the next generation and learning from mistakes? How come you teach that to your kids but college athletes are an exception?

 

[Duncan Idaho]

So?

What ever happened to making things better for the next generation and learning from mistakes? How come you teach that to your kids but college athletes are an exception?

What are you talking about? We had to keep our hats on all the time. Kids were getting sick from the heat taking them off and throwing up in them. We were told to put them back or we were gone. The kids put them back on and finished practice. Thats fd up stuff...and thats only one thing. We were abused. Im thankful that doesnt go on anymore.

 

[UCSouth]

Kids today have it much rougher than the old dopes that say "This is a generation of kids raised on soy milk and sour grapes" had it.

Do you have any examples or comparison that can enlighten me and the rest of the old dopes on here? I'm curious as to how you can justify one generation having it more difficult than another, other than opinion.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[Slick]

College sports is a volunteer activity... the schools have some selling to do to convince the volunteers to play. Even after we get past COVid it seems pretty likely that there will be games canceled in the future as the volunteers try sick outs to push issues. It is what it is. People gonna try to flex when they can. Results may vary, unintended consequences difficult to predict.

Will they give up their scholarships, free meals , training?