Where does Shabazz get off?

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  1. mauconnfan Popular Poster

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    Thanks Fishy............It's a 30 footer and if you don' think every kid in America from AAU, HS basketball and on shoot that 50 times after practice you're wrong. You dream of making the halfcourt shot atthe buzzer but if you can almost make it with the same form as your 20 foot jumper then it's a good shot..........he did and he made it. The idea of driving to the hoop to get a "no-call" because they do swallow the whistle, is ridiculous. This WAS the best shot available and more teams should aspire to attempt that rather than fate at the end of the game like that. Well done Shabazz.................
  2. mauconnfan Popular Poster

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    It's awfully painful and can go away fast or take it's time.......but it can get to the point where you don't even want your foot to the ground or any weight on it. He's a trooper and has been all year............
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  4. WingU-Conn Popular Poster

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    I didn't say that, you're confused.

    I said he should have gone 100% from the moment he caught the ball. That would have put him further up the court than he was when he shot it. (But I didn't realize he was suffering from PF.)

    If he were able to run full speed, he could make it up the court in 5.4 seconds. The Nova guard did it in 5.5, and there's this guy who did it in 4.8.

  5. WingU-Conn Popular Poster

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    At his age it wouldn't, but at 30 or 35 it could for a professional athlete.
  6. WingU-Conn Popular Poster

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    Exactly. I don't know why people can't admit that.
  7. WingU-Conn Popular Poster

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    Bazz said the defense wasn't expecting it, right? There's a reason they weren't expecting it. Please don't ever coach basketball.
  8. WingU-Conn Popular Poster

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    If you're going to criticize my grammar, start by checking yours. Learn how to use "..." properly, and buy a comma or two. If you're going to criticize my grammar, stop using cutoff sentences, and start using paragraphs.

    I gave him props at least once for his onions, if not in this thread, then in the other one. I called the play amazing, I said I was glad it went in so we could discuss the decision.

    I don't know how many times I have to say I didn't realize the extent of his injury. I did qualify my statement by saying (paraphrasing) "were he healthy, he should have went full court." If you're going to criticize my grammar, check your reading comprehension.

    ;)
  9. tzznandrew Popular Poster

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    Missouri's lack of D cost UConn their first National title.
  10. Catsailor Popular Poster

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    Hey comprehend this: A guy that argues with success, is either a dumb guy or just likes to argue for the sake of argument.

    The point was, and still is, that you are wrong. How can a shot that goes in be a bad shot? It's only bad when you miss, LOL.:p

    There was not even a better solution, only a possible alternate solution which, if successful, would, at best, only be equal to, not better than, the choice Bazz made. While misspelled words, run on sentences, fragments are mandatory for most web posting I did buy some commas, on sale, so thanks for the advice ;) hope you get the point now.

    You are a bit touchy for a critic. I was just having fun pointing out that everyone has choices, whether of words or of play options. Your choice was to critique success, silly and sounding a bit self righteous. However you are entitled to your opinion.

    BTW YOU should use GONE next time instead of WENT. It makes you sound smarter, an important consideration when your argument is ridiculous and hypothetical;) Not to mention when the player makes the shot, you didn't what him to take, to win the game:cool:

    Perhaps you should include foot notes referencing your other contradicting opinions/disclaimers stated in other threads (which I did not read) where you say you said the opposite.

    To say this was a bad shot/decision is a curious way to frame a discussion. Sounds confrontational to me like you know better than the player without sharing his perspective, on the court.

    Every one makes mistakes. Every one makes ill thought, wrong-headed remarks... so lighten up. We all forgive you. :)
  11. WingU-Conn Popular Poster

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    Any coach worth a dam will teach his guard to go as fast as possible to the hoop and try and get a layup or foul. No coach teaches their players to pull up from 35 in that situation. But that's irrelevant since it went in I guess. It's not like a contested layup is a higher percentage shot than wide open 35 footer, right? Impossible.

    So....my apologies to the board for assuming some people could have a reasonable discussion about whether a decision, while proven to be succesful, wasn't as sound as an alternative. I have been around this board long enough to know that isn't possible.

    I'll refrain from discussing calculated risks, and playing the percentages in the future and stick to the typical "Gottlieb has us ranked at 30, so he hates UConn" and "Hubert Davis doesn't think we played will in an overtime win against a bad team, so he's a religious zealout, who also hates UConn". I guess that's a much more rational discussion to have around this place.
  12. sparky Popular Poster

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    Sometimes you gotta call it like it is and most of the time you are going to piss a few folks off. He may be a good talent, but not coachable. If that's the case we are stuck and so is he. AD will be gone and perhaps he and boat need to be in a room together.
  13. Catsailor Popular Poster

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    You miss the point.

    To phrase it as a question: Do you think that was the right shot selection? May foster the discussion you are looking for.
    Stating opinion as you did... that it was a "bad shot" is something altogether different.

    You stated your opinion. The reply was predicable. What else do you expect?
    You get what you give. Is that discussion? Not really but you were never open to a differing opinion anyway.

    Now you presume to know what all coaches would do. Man that's powerful stuff. I had no idea who I was dealing with. I wonder should I be wary of the person who speaks in absolutes.:rolleyes:

    Maybe YOU should take over for Blaney and crew or at least share your insight. May you are the answer to question of who should succeed JC you do seem to know a lot.

    I know I'm not as knowledgeable as you are because I don't profess to know what "no coach would do" AND what "every coach worth a dam" would do.

    However I do know that some players have made ridiculously difficult shots/plays over the 45+ years of UCONN and others that I have watched and their choices seemed to this observer dictated by circumstance and self confidence rather than drawn up on a chalk board.

    I have also heard on more than one occasion JC state (in his own words) certain players had the green light to make shooting decision. So I guess, from your perspective, JC, for one, isn't worth a dam.

    Please forgive my naivety to presume that one size does NOT fit all...that not all circumstances dictate the same game plan and that the best of plans sometimes, due to changing circumstance may requires improvisation and leap of faith, and very large "kahonies".

    And again the solution that works is NOT wrong.

    I may be wasting my time here and I did have some to kill but no longer.

    I do realize it's only an internet message board so what does one expect.....it take a certain kind of man to admit error and move on and usually not the kind that professes to know all the answers. Sorry, I corrected your went/gone thing the rest not so much.

    This was fun but let's not do it again or more.
  14. UConnLen New Member

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    Don't be so sensitive-we're [mostly] all UConn fans! Just because some don't agree with you-we feel that was the right shot to take because he wouldn't have time for a layup or would have lost the ball or the shot would have been blocked or he woulda been fouled w/no call.
  15. WingU-Conn Popular Poster

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    I'm not upset. But people are confusing my argument that there was "a better decision" with the argument he made "the wrong decision". If I implied that, I didn't mean to. If I said it, I shouldn't have, but I don't think I did. I'm not saying he did the wrong thing, I'm saying there was a better decision to be made there. (BUT, that was before I realized what his injury is.) For example, duct tape will fix a lot of sh1t, it's not "wrong" to use it, but that doesn't mean there isn't a better way to fix something.

    If the roles were reversed, and he was healthy enough to push it the length of the court; no matter how that turned out, nobody would have made the argument he should have pulled up where he did. Nobody.

    Looking forward to Saracuse going down on Saturday. Wish I could be there.

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