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...failure to provide a meaningful education. LINK

How long before the NCAA announces that it will hold off on any sanction to UNC due to pending litigation?

The lawsuit seeks educational reforms and financial compensation for the athletes. Plaintiffs are looking for class action status, so expect prolonged litigation.
 
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Oh that's good. So ex-athletes suing the fraud shop for failing to provide an education will, more than likely, delay UNC's punishment. Something tells me that this will go on for decades and sometime around 2188, it will be announced that no action will be taken against UNC because the NCAA forgot what they were investigating in the first place.
 

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Why would it delay the NCAA investigation?
 
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It's likely that since the NCAA has been named in this suit they would be less likely to find UNC guilty of any wrongdoing since this could demonstrate their negligence in this case.

Anything that could potentially show the NCAA knew about & ignored what was going on at UNC would be them basically admitting guilt in this lawsuit
 
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Heck...it is most likely lawyers looking for a payday on a contingency fee.

There are ambulance chasers who specialize in Title IX, and others who specialize in asbestosis claims...just a new business category to exploit for the sharps.
 

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What a crock - gold diggers. Why is it 99% of the student body gets a meaningful eductation but they didn't? Were they forced into sham classes at gunpoint - or did the lack of actual coursework not tip them off to sign up for something other than AA studies?
 

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Heck...it is most likely lawyers looking for a payday on a contingency fee.

There are ambulance chasers who specialize in Title IX, and others who specialize in asbestosis claims...just a new business category to exploit for the sharps.
Let me 'splain to you how that works. Lawyer takes case. Lawyer puts in hundreds of hours of work. Lawyer wins, he gets a percentage of what the client receives. Not a bad deal depending on the amount of the recovery and amount of work needed to get it.

Now if the lawyer loses, he does not get paid for his work. He did all that work for nothing. Lawyer's children go hungry. Lawyer's wife divorces him and gets the house, half of the accumulated assets, plus child support, plus alimony. Lawyer is sad.

Given that, I think it is fair to assume that most competent lawyers are choosy about which cases they take on contingency. Lawyers don't like to be sad.
 
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I'm going to file a suit alleging that the University of Connecticut allowed me to waste (have amazing fun) in the jungle when I should have been studying!
 

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What a crock - gold diggers. Why is it 99% of the student body gets a meaningful eductation but they didn't? Were they forced into sham classes at gunpoint - or did the lack of actual coursework not tip them off to sign up for something other than AA studies?
The only way to determine that 99% of students have recieved a meaningful education is to have the entire student body participate in a
basket weaving contest to see who actually learned anything in class.
 
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Let me 'splain to you how that works. Lawyer takes case. Lawyer puts in hundreds of hours of work. Lawyer wins, he gets a percentage of what the client receives. Not a bad deal depending on the amount of the recovery and amount of work needed to get it.

Now if the lawyer loses, he does not get paid for his work. He did all that work for nothing. Lawyer's children go hungry. Lawyer's wife divorces him and gets the house, half of the accumulated assets, plus child support, plus alimony. Lawyer is sad.

Given that, I think it is fair to assume that most competent lawyers are choosy about which cases they take on contingency. Lawyers don't like to be sad.

Well aware of contingency fees and what they imply. Basically it is an investment by the firm in a case...but for a possible lead in a major class action, it is well worth it.


Especially if you settle before a trial. And the more likely the defendant is to be embarrassed or hurt by by a court battle, the more likely a settlement

While I have no experience in tort law, I have watched John Clune (a title IX specialist) and others operate. They play to the media, threaten, and make every attempt to make the defendant declare "no mas". The wrongful injury suits that FSU has been party to have been, by comparison, much more straightforward.
 

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Well aware of contingency fees and what they imply. Basically it is an investment by the firm in a case...but for a possible lead in a major class action, it is well worth it.


Especially if you settle before a trial. And the more likely the defendant is to be embarrassed or hurt by by a court battle, the more likely a settlement

While I have no experience in tort law, I have watched John Clune (a title IX specialist) and others operate. They play to the media, threaten, and make every attempt to make the defendant declare "no mas". The wrongful injury suits that FSU has been party to have been, by comparison, much more straightforward.
That investment is rather than doing other work, which is how attorneys make a living. So it is a what the heck, let's see if we can shake some guy down thought process. You may or not know that attorneys are sanctioned for filing cases that have no opportunity of success. If they do it repeatedly, they can lose their license to practice law, and thus their ability to earn a living. Given all that, I'm not sure your "ambulance chasing" comment really made a whole lot sense.
 
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NCAA says it has no legal responsibility for UNC academic fraud

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...o-legal-responsibility-for-unc-academic-fraud

"This case is troubling for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that the law does not and has never required the NCAA to ensure that every student-athlete is actually taking full advantage of the academic and athletic opportunities provides to them," NCAA chief legal officer Donald Remy said, adding that many athletes maximize their educational opportunities."
 
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Oh that's good. So ex-athletes suing the fraud shop for failing to provide an education will, more than likely, delay UNC's punishment. Something tells me that this will go on for decades and sometime around 2188, it will be announced that no action will be taken against UNC because the NCAA forgot what they were investigating in the first place.


The NCAA forgot about what it is investigating at UNC as soon as UNC showed the NCAA how much money it made off of UNC in the last 3 decades.
 

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Did the NCAA create a system which encouraged academic fraud when it created the APR?
 
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...failure to provide a meaningful education. LINK

How long before the NCAA announces that it will hold off on any sanction to UNC due to pending litigation?

The lawsuit seeks educational reforms and financial compensation for the athletes. Plaintiffs are looking for class action status, so expect prolonged litigation.
Not to worry, just because UNC gets to skate doesn't mean UConn can't be punished in the meantime. For what you ask? Just never-you-mind for what. Suffice it to say we don't have one of those UNC-style "Get Out of Jail Free" cards.
 
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Speaking of getting of of jail for free, here it is.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/12413981/new-ncaa-legislation-academic-misconduct-works

As soon as these new rules are approved, the NCAA will declare that UNC cannot be penalized because UNC's issues happened before the new rules went into effect and one cannot be penalized retroactively.*

* Note: one exclusion applies, i.e. the UConn clause, which states that retroactive penalties may apply if said university 1) attempts to sue Lord Emmert for gross mismanagement, even if true, because he is Lord Emmert or 2) those that have the nerve to win a national basketball national title after being penalized the year before.
 

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Speaking of getting of of jail for free, here it is.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/12413981/new-ncaa-legislation-academic-misconduct-works

As soon as these new rules are approved, the NCAA will declare that UNC cannot be penalized because UNC's issues happened before the new rules went into effect and one cannot be penalized retroactively.*

* Note: one exclusion applies, i.e. the UConn clause, which states that retroactive penalties may apply if said university 1) attempts to sue Lord Emmert for gross mismanagement, even if true, because he is Lord Emmert or 2) those that have the nerve to win a national basketball national title after being penalized the year before.
Bingo. This is their way out. Really, on any given day, I have to fight not to fly down there and burn that place to the ground.
 
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Speaking of getting of of jail for free, here it is.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/12413981/new-ncaa-legislation-academic-misconduct-works

As soon as these new rules are approved, the NCAA will declare that UNC cannot be penalized because UNC's issues happened before the new rules went into effect and one cannot be penalized retroactively.*

* Note: one exclusion applies, i.e. the UConn clause, which states that retroactive penalties may apply if said university 1) attempts to sue Lord Emmert for gross mismanagement, even if true, because he is Lord Emmert or 2) those that have the nerve to win a national basketball national title after being penalized the year before.

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This is a group which really does make it up as it goes along, retroactively.
UCONN will be punished for recruiting extremely talented point guards year after year.
 
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