The end game of conference realignment.

[shizzle787]

Ok, well there will probably never be an end game, but here is what it could look like:
B1G: (E) UConn, Michigan State, Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Rutgers, Indiana, Maryland
(W) Kansas, Iowa, Wisconsin, Illinois, Northwestern, Minnesota, Nebraska, Perdue
Pac 16: (E) Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Utah, Colorado, Arizona, Arizona State
(W) UCLA, USC, Stanford, Cal, Washington State, Oregon, Washington, Oregon State
SEC: (E) Georgia Tech, Clemson, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Tennessee, S. Carolina, Vanderbilt
(W) Missouri, LSU, Alabama, Texas A&M, Ole Miss, Miss St., Auburn, Arkansas
ACC (A) Cincinatti, West Virginia, Florida State, Louisville, Syracuse, Wake Forest, NC State, Boston College
(C) TCU, Baylor, Pittsburg, Duke, UNC, Miami, Virginia, Virginia Tech
Independents: Notre Dame, BYU, Army, Navy
American (E) Marshall, Buffalo, Temple, East Carolina, UCF, USF
(W) Rice, Houston, Memphis, Tulane, Tulsa, SMU
Mountain West adds Iowa State and Kansas State.
Ivy League is promoted to FBS for TV ratings and nostalgia, while C-USA, MAC, and Sun Belt are demoted to FCS. There will be an 8-team playoff including 4 conference champions from Power 4 conferences plus 4 at large bids (either conference champions from Group of 3 conferences or other Power 4 teams). Power 4 conference title games WILL NOT serve as de facto playoff quarterfinal games as it would render non-conference games meaningless.
The Bowl system will also be revamped so that 8 wins becomes the minimum to achieve bowl status.

 

[CAHUSKY]

Clearly there is an end game. Concentrate the revenue from college sports among the fewest teams as possible without triggering legal or congressional anti trust litigation.

 

[billybud]

I am all for letting America vote on a list of 64 teams that they want to see.

List all current FBS teams and let America check 'em off.

Then organize them as best fits current conferences.

 

[Seaa Blue]

lol... It's Purdue.

I don't think Oklahoma goes to the PAC, but anything could happen.

 

[Kolumbo]

First, the end game seems to be F UCONN whenever possible. Top 20 public research U. with incredible athletic department. G5.
Second, I still do not understand the logic of marginalizing over half of the D1 college football programs. Sure, those in the P5 become more valuable because they are grouped together while the G5 become less valuable. No matter how you slice the pie, the entire college football pie would reach maximum value if all 128 programs play on the same field. I can only guess its espn's goal to maximize short term profits, similar to most CEO's, rather than to focus on the long term which is unknown.

 

[pj]

lol... It's Purdue.

I don't think Oklahoma goes to the PAC, but anything could happen.

I don't think Texas goes to the Pac either. Too much money and exposure in the East. Don't forget most university money comes from Washington DC and universities want mindshare there.

I do think the Pac picks up some B12 leftovers, in order to get into Texas and the Central time zone. If Oklahoma goes SEC, they might pick up Oklahoma State, Kansas State, and Iowa State along with Texas Tech to reach 16. If Oklahoma goes B1G, then SEC may pick up Oklahoma State.

 

[CL82]

Please read these Conference Realignment Scenarios 101
Conference Realignment Scenarios 201

Think about them carefully before your next realignment post.

Oh and here's a tip: you need more slashes.

 

[coachcap]

Ok, well there will probably never be an end game, but here is what it could look like:
B1G: (E) UConn, Michigan State, Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Rutgers, Indiana, Maryland
(W) Kansas, Iowa, Wisconsin, Illinois, Northwestern, Minnesota, Nebraska, Perdue
Pac 16: (E) Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Utah, Colorado, Arizona, Arizona State
(W) UCLA, USC, Stanford, Cal, Washington State, Oregon, Washington, Oregon State
SEC: (E) Georgia Tech, Clemson, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Tennessee, S. Carolina, Vanderbilt
(W) Missouri, LSU, Alabama, Texas A&M, Ole Miss, Miss St., Auburn, Arkansas
ACC (A) Cincinatti, West Virginia, Florida State, Louisville, Syracuse, Wake Forest, NC State, Boston College
(C) TCU, Baylor, Pittsburg, Duke, UNC, Miami, Virginia, Virginia Tech
Independents: Notre Dame, BYU, Army, Navy
American (E) Marshall, Buffalo, Temple, East Carolina, UCF, USF
(W) Rice, Houston, Memphis, Tulane, Tulsa, SMU
Mountain West adds Iowa State and Kansas State.
Ivy League is promoted to FBS for TV ratings and nostalgia, while C-USA, MAC, and Sun Belt are demoted to FCS. There will be an 8-team playoff including 4 conference champions from Power 4 conferences plus 4 at large bids (either conference champions from Group of 3 conferences or other Power 4 teams). Power 4 conference title games WILL NOT serve as de facto playoff quarterfinal games as it would render non-conference games meaningless.
The Bowl system will also be revamped so that 8 wins becomes the minimum to achieve bowl status.

MAC demoted to FCS? You'd have to drag teams like Northern Illinois (& this year-Toledo) out the door. They've made investments in football & can regularly play with & beat 50% of all teams in the P-5 & AAC. A Northern Illinois vs. Cinci or UConn would be very competitive & those Chicago Huskies have a very good shot of emerging victorious.

 

[TRest]

First, the end game seems to be F UCONN whenever possible. Top 20 public research U. with incredible athletic department. G5.
Second, I still do not understand the logic of marginalizing over half of the D1 college football programs. Sure, those in the P5 become more valuable because they are grouped together while the G5 become less valuable. No matter how you slice the pie, the entire college football pie would reach maximum value if all 128 programs play on the same field. I can only guess its espn's goal to maximize short term profits, similar to most CEO's, rather than to focus on the long term which is unknown.

The P5 formed basically at the behest of the old bowl system, which is only interested in bringing in schools that have large traveling fan bases. As long as college football keeps the bowl system involved, the focus will always be on what conferences have the automatic bowl tie-ins with the major bowls. If the bowls could get the P5 conferences to drop some lesser athletic programs, they would be happier than hell.

 

[Ldandy]

The title of this thread could just as easily have been "Things with zero percent chance of ever happening."

 

[shizzle787]

MAC demoted to FCS? You'd have to drag teams like Northern Illinois (& this year-Toledo) out the door. They've made investments in football & can regularly play with & beat 50% of all teams in the P-5 & AAC. A Northern Illinois vs. Cinci or UConn would be very competitive & those Chicago Huskies have a very good shot of emerging victorious.

Not necessarily: any school that can survive as an independent or sweet talk one of the remaining G5 conferences would stay up.

 

[shizzle787]

I feel like Texas, Notre Dame, and, yes, UConn are the three biggest players in the next CR. I still feel that Notre Dame will be able to stay independent so that leaves Texas as the major mover. Ultimately, I feel their choice will be between three conferences (PAC, B1G, SEC) and they will ultimately choose the SEC as they will again join with their rivals A&M (who have been killing them in recruiting) as their southern culture is the tiebreaker between the comparable money they would receive from the B1G or SEC. They would take Texas Tech with them, as they have a so-called "Tech problem."

Here is how it could shake out as a result:
SEC: expands to 16 by adding Texas and Texas Tech
B1G: expands to 16 by adding Kansas and UConn (who gets AAU)
PAC: expands to 16 by adding Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, TCU, and Baylor
ACC: expands to 16 by adding West Virginia and Cincinnati (17 in basketball)
Big XII is dissolved, and P5 becomes P4.

BYU, Army, Notre Dame, and Navy are independents
Mountain West adds Iowa State, Kansas St. and then merges with the American to form a 16-team national conference (the fat is trimmed).
Schools that lose out in that merger move to C-USA.
The MAC survives, barely.
However, the Sun Belt gets booted to FCS.

 

[31GuardTrap]

I feel like Texas, Notre Dame, and, yes, UConn are the three biggest players in the next CR. I still feel that Notre Dame will be able to stay independent so that leaves Texas as the major mover. Ultimately, I feel their choice will be between three conferences (PAC, B1G, SEC) and they will ultimately choose the SEC as they will again join with their rivals A&M (who have been killing them in recruiting) as their southern culture is the tiebreaker between the comparable money they would receive from the B1G or SEC. They would take Texas Tech with them, as they have a so-called "Tech problem."

Here is how it could shake out as a result:
SEC: expands to 16 by adding Texas and Texas Tech
B1G: expands to 16 by adding Kansas and UConn (who gets AAU)
PAC: expands to 16 by adding Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, TCU, and Baylor
ACC: expands to 16 by adding West Virginia and Cincinnati (17 in basketball)
Big XII is dissolved, and P5 becomes P4.

BYU, Army, Notre Dame, and Navy are independents
Mountain West adds Iowa State, Kansas St. and then merges with the American to form a 16-team national conference (the fat is trimmed).
Schools that lose out in that merger move to C-USA.
The MAC survives, barely.
However, the Sun Belt gets booted to FCS.

No

 

[larryredbull]

Ok, well there will probably never be an end game, but here is what it could look like:
B1G: (E) UConn, Michigan State, Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Rutgers, Indiana, Maryland
(W) Kansas, Iowa, Wisconsin, Illinois, Northwestern, Minnesota, Nebraska, Perdue
Pac 16: (E) Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Utah, Colorado, Arizona, Arizona State
(W) UCLA, USC, Stanford, Cal, Washington State, Oregon, Washington, Oregon State
SEC: (E) Georgia Tech, Clemson, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Tennessee, S. Carolina, Vanderbilt
(W) Missouri, LSU, Alabama, Texas A&M, Ole Miss, Miss St., Auburn, Arkansas
ACC (A) Cincinatti, West Virginia, Florida State, Louisville, Syracuse, Wake Forest, NC State, Boston College
(C) TCU, Baylor, Pittsburg, Duke, UNC, Miami, Virginia, Virginia Tech
Independents: Notre Dame, BYU, Army, Navy
American (E) Marshall, Buffalo, Temple, East Carolina, UCF, USF
(W) Rice, Houston, Memphis, Tulane, Tulsa, SMU
Mountain West adds Iowa State and Kansas State.
Ivy League is promoted to FBS for TV ratings and nostalgia, while C-USA, MAC, and Sun Belt are demoted to FCS. There will be an 8-team playoff including 4 conference champions from Power 4 conferences plus 4 at large bids (either conference champions from Group of 3 conferences or other Power 4 teams). Power 4 conference title games WILL NOT serve as de facto playoff quarterfinal games as it would render non-conference games meaningless.
The Bowl system will also be revamped so that 8 wins becomes the minimum to achieve bowl status.

The Uconn monkey board never fails to impress.

Please explain how the SEC picking up Ga Tech and Clemson ( 2 states they already own) helps them get more money for rights. Especially when ESPN is sucking wind and firing people.
The SEC will only pick up teams in states where they arent already (NC, VA) and ESPN is willing to pay more for (not likely with them in over their heads with current contracts).